Good information for new and old web masters alike. It actually gives me pleasure to look at my portfolio and know all my PR is built with White Hat SEO. Might actually be worth some coinage down the road. Maybe the tortoise does win in the end.
This person wants to sell link space in his site for $1000..and telling his site is PR9,when i checked in google http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showthread.php?t=2343586 info:henkel-water.com cache:henkel-water.com it showing University of California...
It's just a fake 301 redirection. It's very simple to find out. However methods that I mentioned on my post 1 is more complicated and involves more brain to do it. It is very difficult to spot.
So far I saw domains which called The Master Samdar are valid. It may be true that these domains from the fake, the domain such redirected to the high pr and then valid. And apparently it's only a matter of time valid from google cache. Like when we buy a domain at GoDaddy. We know that many domains at GoDaddy auction are fake high PR, then the next update, they become valid. Then the fake domains which had been taken by buyers, get a valid domain on they account, and Godaddy need between 5-7 days to transfers the domain are purchased to the buyer's account. Once the domain belongs to the buyer, the buyer sell it back at this forum on a domain sale. And it seems legitimate that the domain is valid. Do we also say that GoDaddy is fraudster? Because GoDaddy was selling high fake PR domain and then on the next update to be valid? Please explain to me The Master Samdar. I understand there are many high PR domains comes from the fake PR. During the site gets a good backlink and SEO, it will last a long time. But not rule out going down PR. So, I think don't panic and then report to Matt Cutts. It sounds so funny. :lol:
I typically employ a bit of deductive reasoning first. If it's a directory, has a PR of say 7 or so... I will look at the directory, look at wayback machine, do a whois, google cache, etc.. It's fairly easy to discern a legitimate site from one that smells of bs.
Thanks for the info, this was confusing the hell out of me - I've received several offers selling links on the "pr9" site "henkel-water". I assumed the owner had somehow hacked into a ton of .udu and .gov sites after checking the backlinks and seeing links from a ton of university websites and what-not.. This makes a little more sense.
because they left footprints that it was using 301 redirection....for example spasat(dot)com.. it used to have "Universitas 21" tagline in its header before...but it's gone now
Wow, it's a PR10 web directory! the submission fee is also not cheap! PR is not reliable anymore. Featured links $107.50 - LifeTime Regular links $57.50 - LifeTime
After reading, Maybe I should throw in a penny thought. My conclusion of all this is Pagerank is fast becoming the new alexarank. It is very easily manipulated and holds not as much power as it used to, well only in terms of advertising. There are many ways to manipulate pagerank as OP already stated and unless due diligence is taken, even an expert will fall victim! I found this thread and you might wanna read out too. I will also like to point out not to rely solely on the page cache displayed next to the arrow in google as this does not always hold true,its a 50/50 chance. With a very strong interlinking, a 3 month old domain can achieve a high PR, it does take a little hardwork and a technical know how of what you doing. If you are such that want to go after PR, I would advice you go after aged PR only. For example, arandompr9site.com that has links to its pages with N/A PR says a lot of stories and you should thread with caution, hardly do you find an established PR9 site with its inbound links from the homepage displaying N/A. Just a thought.