Which country is biggest killer?America

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by Freewebspace, Nov 7, 2006.

  1. #1
    Sorry for All the Americans out here You may be nationalist arguing that Americans are very good people

    But what they Precieve all ovewr the world is that Americans are ruthless killers

    This is because of these killings

    1)Iraq-654,000 ( not certain acc to a report) peoples has lost lives since America invaded Iraq(These people would have been alive had Saddam has been there)

    Also Saddam did not have any mass weapons of destruction ?why they invaded still remains a guees to me

    2)Hiroshima-more than 100,000 people lost their lives

    3)Due to American Invasions all over the world more than 2 million people had lost their lives

    For all the though America is not directly responsible They are indirectly responsible for creating sunni -shia divide in Iraq Due to which many people had lost their lives

    If this continues More and more people will lose their lives and this may turn their itre against America which may be very dangerous

    Also It lies in your hands to change the future of America do not hestitate to voice your concerns against War

    Because war kills humanity

    Instead of spending more Billions in War ,If it had spend a little of it in Africa It would have saved millions of people who die every year due to Povery and Famine

    So choose your judgement correctly

    If there is a terrorist Attack and If you know who are terrorists responsible for that you have the right to kill them

    but do not invade a entire nation

    Its my plea to all americans
     
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  2. MrMOJO

    MrMOJO Well-Known Member Affiliate Manager

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    Quoting from WWII for Dummies -"Over 60 million people died in WWII and of those 60 million, more were civilian than soldiers." Pages 363 and 364 give a run down with some numbers but does not offer a breakdown of the total civilian vs. soldier.

    The Soviet Union lost the most with 25 million deaths, but only about a third were combat related.

    China's death toll is incomplete but estimates are between 15 and 22 million.

    Poland had 6 million deaths including 3 million Jews, roughly 20% of its prewar population.

    Germany lost 4 million soldiers and 2 million civilians, many of them women.

    Japan had 1.2 million battle deaths and another 1.4 million soldiers listed as missing, almost 1 million civilians were killed in the bombing raids between 1944 and 1945.

    Over 1.7 million Yugoslavs and 500,000 Greeks died in the war.

    France lost 200,000 soldiers and 400,000 civilians.

    Italy lost 330,000 people.

    Hungary lost 147,000 men in combat.

    Bulgaria lost 19,000 in combat.

    Romania lost 73,000 in combat.

    Great Britain lost 264,000 soldiers and 60,000 civilians in bombing raids.

    The United States lost 292,000 soldiers.

    The Dutch lost 10,000 soldiers and 190,000 civilians.

    Australia lost 23,000 men in combat.

    Canada lost 37,000 soldiers.

    India lost 24,000 men in battle.

    New Zeland lost 10,000.

    South Africa lost 6,000.

    These totals do not include the 6 million Jews who perished in the Final Solution of Nazi Germany or the 17 million dead as a result of Japan's policies in Asia from 1931 to 1945.
     
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  3. Lexiseek

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    You better watch your mouth. Or we'll kill you next!
     
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    careful or he may ban you from buying a slurpee at 7-11
     
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    Haha. That's wrong. And that's what makes it so funny :)
     
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    sorry, but it annoys me that people who will willingly kill a human over a cow feel somehow morally superior to us.
     
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    It's actually inherent racism like that amongst the more vocal but less enlightened parts of American society that makes people judge the whole of American society that way. I'm just glad it's not the case with all of you. :rolleyes:
     
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    How is that anymore racist than Apo on the Simpsons?
     
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    #9
    Unenlightened commentary makes you judge ALL of American society one way?

    You realize it was an individual who made the comment, right?

    I know most Brits are nowhere near as stupid as the ones on DP. I would never judge all of England based on a few people.

    I mean look at Sacha Baron Cohen. He proves a Brit can be great if he tries hard enough!
     
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    Why does everyone have an opinion about how 'evil' america is? Do I fuckin rant about India's vices?
     
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    lol Lex, notice how it's racist to say that Indian's work at 7-11, but it's "A-OK" to say Americans are "ruthless killers".
     
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    #12
    Vices? What vices? India is perfect man!
     
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    #13
    You know, no matter how much they say it's a stereotype, I've know the owners of a few....and it's not in those cases.
     
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    #14
    Apoo is a character in a cartoon which is full of stereotypes. Thanksfully most people that aren't moronic realise it's just that.

    How is you calling Freewebspace a Kwik-E-Mart cashier because he's from India any different to calling a black person a thief or and American stupid based on nothing more then their country?
     
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    Tell me, advanced Brit from the future: how did England wipe out racism again?
     
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    Yes, hence this -

    It's actually inherent racism like that amongst the more vocal but less enlightened parts of American society that makes people judge the whole of American society that way. I'm just glad it's not the case with all of you
     
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    *cough* delusion *cough*

    I'll think about that when I never move there.
     
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    Like other dictators who wrote bloody chapters in 20th-century history, Mr. Hussein was primed for violence by early childhood. Born into the murderous clan culture of a village that lived off piracy on the Tigris River, he was harshly beaten by a brutal stepfather. In 1959, at age 22, he made his start in politics as one of the gunmen who botched an attempt to assassinate Iraq's first military ruler, Abdel Karim Kassem.

    Since then, Mr. Hussein's has been a tale of terror that scholars have compared to that of Stalin, whom the Iraqi leader is said to revere, even if his own brutalities have played out on a small scale. Stalin killed 20 million of his own people, historians have concluded. Even on a proportional basis, his crimes far surpass Mr. Hussein's, but figures of a million dead Iraqis, in war and through terror, may not be far from the mark, in a country of 22 million people.

    Source: http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/Printable.asp?ID=5773


    In 1959, before Hussein was the leader of Iraq (before he had
    completed high school, even), he participated in the assignation of
    the then-current Iraqi leader. (“Crimes Against Iraq,”
    http://www.upforanything.net/archives/000664.html )

    In 1968, Hussein, actively engaged in “purifying the government and
    society of potential dissidents.” (“Biography of Saddam Hussein of
    Tikrit,” Iraq Foundation:
    http://www.iraqfoundation.org/research/bio.html )
    In 1974, Hussein participated in the killing of five religious
    leaders. (“Saddam’s Crimes,”
    http://www.sciri.btinternet.co.uk/English/Saddam_Crimes/saddam_crimes.html
    ) Hundreds of other religious people were arrested and tortured.
    In 1977, Hussein was responsible for the arrest of thousand of
    religious people, and the killing of hundreds of them.
    In 1978, Hussein participated in the assignation of former
    Prime-Minister Abdul Razzaq Al naef in London. Between 1978-79,
    Hussein helped “eliminate” 7,000 communists in Iraq.
    In 1979, Hussein ordered another purge to eliminate political
    opponents. Hundreds of top ranking Ba'thists and army officers were
    executed.
    During the Iran-Iraq War (1980-88), 730,000 Iranians died. You will
    recall that Hussein was the aggressor in this war, because he wanted
    full control of the Arvand/Shatt al-Arab waterway at the head of the
    Persian Gulf. (For more information on the war, see “Iran-Iraq War,”
    at Encyclopedia.com: http://www.encyclopedia.com/html/i/irani1raq.asp
    ) Approximately 1,000 Kuwaiti nationals were killed in the Iraqi
    invasion of Kuwait. It’s estimated there were 1,500,000 refugees from
    this war, displaced by Iraq’s occupation of Kuwait. 750,000 “endured
    brutalities, oppression, and torture.” Although the date for the end
    of the war is usually given as 1988, the struggle continued, and
    500,000 Iranians were late killed (the Iranians say it was closer to 1
    million), 100,000 by Hussein’s chemical weapons. In one day, 5,000
    men, women, and children were gassed. (“Sadaam’s Other Crime,” In The
    National Interest: http://www.inthenationalinterest.com/Articles/Vol3Issue29/Vol3Issue29Askari.html
    and “Charges Facing Saddam Hussein,” BBC:
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/3320293.stm )

    Between 1987-1988, 180,000 Kurds “disappeared,” and 4,000 villages
    were razed, in an effort at “ethnic cleansing.”
    In 1983, Hussein killed of 8,000 members of the Barzani clan. Also in
    1983, Hussein arrested 90 members of Al Hakim family and executed 16
    of them.
    Between 1988 and 1999, Hussein killed 7,000 prisoners in what was
    called “prison cleansing.” (“NoBody Count,”
    http://www.blogoram.com/000184.php )
    We also know that Hussein killed and tortured many other “enemies”
    before the Gulf War. For example: Ayatollah Mohamad baqir Al Sadr and
    his sister Amina Al Sadr (Bint Al Huda) were arrested, tortured, and
    killed in 1980. In 1981, Haj Sahal Al Salman in UAE in 1981, Sami
    Mahdi was killed. In 1987, Ni'ma Mohamad in Pakistan was killed. In
    1988, Sayed Mahdi Al Hakim in Sudan was killed.
    In addition, we know from Iraqi officials that Hussein put to death
    “officers who did not agree to execute people in the street,”
    religious leaders who didn’t lavish praise of Hussein, and Shiite
    Muslims (for their religious views). (See, as an example, “Officer's
    tale: Iraq's web of assassination, “ Christian Science Monitor:
    http://www.csmonitor.com/2003/0424/p01s04-woiq.html ) Remember, too,
    that mass graves were found during the FIRST Gulf War. (“Charges
    Against Saddam,” TalkLeft:
    http://talkleft.com/new_archives/004668.html )

    In the 1990s, Hussein killed 40,000 Shia’s (or Shiite Muslims) for
    their religious uprisings; among those who became prisoners,
    approximately 2,000 were executed on November 1993 alone. (“Death
    Tolls,” http://users.erols.com/mwhite28/warstat5.htm#Iraq For more on
    Shia’s, see “Shiites,” http://mb-soft.com/believe/txo/shiites.htm ) As
    further evidence that the Gulf War did not play a role in Shia deaths,
    in 1980, before war with Iran, Hussein hanged two leading Shia
    figures. (“Radical Shias Worry Bush as well as Sadaam,” Daily Times:
    http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=story_13-10-2002_pg4_7 )
    Since 1974, at least hundreds of Shia leaders have been arrested.

    I leave you to draw your own conclusions. Would fewer people have been
    killed if the U.S. had not participated in the Gulf War? Or would
    Hussein have continued to kill, even without U.S. intervension?

    For a look at the usual figures we hear about Hussein, see “Killer
    File:” http://www.moreorless.au.com/killers/hussein-comment.html

    Source: http://www.answers.google.com/answers/threadview?id=392881
     
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    I don't think any country has wiped out racism, I don't think any will
     
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    Exactly. Matt, I like you...despite your seemingly English background. You and I are getting along great, and we're from different countries.

    Perhaps others here will learn to follow our lead.
     
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