It was only a matter of time: What a sick ass world!

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  1. debunked

    debunked Prominent Member

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    #41
    Al Gore isn't a scientist... no really he isn't.... he isn't much of a politician anymore either. :D


    Please show me the scientist that says H2O (water) is running out. I need another laugh this morning. (Now, I am not saying getting to clean water for the cities isn't an issue.)

    O2 is running out!! run for the hills! Maybe mars has water we can split for O2? Just like total recall.

    I have been playing with O2 and H2O. Did you know that trees use CO2 and expell O2?

    I should cut all my trees down, in fact burn my lawn that stupid O2 producing green stuff is a pain anyways.
     
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  2. hextraordinary

    hextraordinary Well-Known Member

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    #42
    No doubt you are clueless about the status of our environment. Do some reading, it might do you some good.
     
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    debunked Prominent Member

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    #43
    So, you don't have anything to show then? If you did you could have given some sort of link.

    Do you know that the balance of salts in the ocean is sustained by river water AND melting ice? Interesting huh?

    Did you know that 'burning' hydrogen with oxygen produces water? How about a hydrogen car producing water?
     
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  4. hextraordinary

    hextraordinary Well-Known Member

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    #44
    I'm really not in the mood for that argument.

    I know all that, BUT, pollution is increasing at a growing rate + cutting the rainforests is diluting the amounts of oxygen we have in the atmosphere and polluting our drinking water.

    You know all that, no need to go over that....

    pfffttt i'm too tired for this...
     
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  5. ferret77

    ferret77 Heretic

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    #45
    Don't worry Jesus will come back and fix everything no matter what we do, or maybe all the good people will get raptured away
     
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    debunked Prominent Member

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    #46
    OK Al Gore, stop cutting down the rain forest then. Geesh.

    at the rate that has been reported the rain forest should have been completely harvested 2 or 3 times already. Oh ya, the facts don't matter.

    you must be tired. You aren't helping much here. The thing I find interesting is the science that has worked on the other end - you know - solutions. Bring more things to the table than just - kill them all.
     
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  7. ferret77

    ferret77 Heretic

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    #47
    only liberal commies believe in science
     
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  8. lorien1973

    lorien1973 Notable Member

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    #48
    Are you reading the topic or just inserting random "thoughts" as you desire? Any cartoons you'd care to put up next?
     
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  9. debunked

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    #49
    I was wondering myself. My bet was he was replying to me, but didn't read what I wrote, just a word or 2.
     
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    #50
    Ferret's lack of reading ability IS well documented, afterall. So I can see your point.
     
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  11. sarahk

    sarahk iTamer Staff

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    #51
    That was an awesome video clip by the way - I'll be forwarding it to my sister in law who does music therapy with kids just like Rick.

    However, as a parent of 2 awesome kids I know that we stopped at 2 because of my age and it's increased risk of downs etc, as well as dyspraxia which runs through my side of the family. We decided to prevent conception because we didn't want to risk upsetting the balance of our family. We didn't kill anyone, but nor did we give anyone life for exactly the same reason as stated in that newspaper article. Are we equally abhorrent?

    One of my mother's friends works in a geriatric hospital and talks of the extreme measures taken to keep the elderly patients alive - yet as a young nurse the same illnesses could have been treated (eg pneumonia) but the patients were allowed to "succumb". My mother nursed babies and has similar stories.

    Infact dictionary.com says
    It seems that our distaste may be a new thing and that the dutch may be acting traditionally?
     
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  12. lorien1973

    lorien1973 Notable Member

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    #52
    Sarah - you did not give birth to something, then kill it because it was inconvenient. The two are not the same thing.
     
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  13. sarahk

    sarahk iTamer Staff

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    #53
    No - but babies are aborted (or not conceived) all the time because of the belief that "A very disabled child can mean a disabled family,"

    It's that belief that leads to acceptance of the policy. If we endorse it are we not just as culpable?
     
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  14. lorien1973

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    #54
    Wait a second. You are equating a not-conceived baby with an aborted one or one that is killed after its born?
     
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  15. sarahk

    sarahk iTamer Staff

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    #55
    No, I'm highlighting the hypocrisy of those who condemn the article but support the philosophy.

    The Drs are only taking it one step further and we hide the reality of disability away. Down here we complain that there aren't enough medical resources but we won't pay higher taxes to cover it. Sadly we live with finite abilities.
     
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    #56
    Gotcha, I see your point.

    I think the problem comes when you live in a society that forces taxpayers to buy into a common system, and not able to buy their own healthcare or have charities who may want to help. You are essentially buying into a triage system that may or may not work in your favor. It is what it is. Socialism and freedom do not mix, as they say.

    Remember, a few weeks back, I posted a story where doctors in Britain were throwing aborted babies into the incinerator to cut on costs. I agree, this is just a step down that very same road.

    Its hard to be for abortion and be against killing them after birth, if they do not fit the purposes.

    I'm not sure I agree with "higher taxes to cover it" is the right solution, though. That's an entirely different discussion.
     
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    #58
    This story is more than Rick (which is amazing in itself) it is a story of a loving father who will do anything for his son. This video makes me want to stay close to my boy and be thankful he is healthy and live everyday to the full!

    Thanks for the link Arnie,

    D
     
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  19. sarahk

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    #59
    I had a long talk with my sister in law last night who does music therapy with kids just like Rick.

    I'd emailed her some of the links I'd found and she was really touched. But she said that while Dick is extreme she's finding alot of parents having really wonderful relationships with their disabled kids (and adults) that enhance the lives of both the parent and child.
     
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    #60
    Thats why I have little faith in it. ;)
     
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