Does God need to be praised by us or do we need to praise Him?

Aww... <group hug >

 

You're not, apparently. You beg for money and, according to you, he provides it. Funny how this free will only surfaces when you have to try to rationalise your god doing nothing to help the most vulnerable while assisting you in credit card repayments. You earn a little extra money "it's a miracle" children get raped "ah, that's free will, god leaves us to our own devices". You don't get to have it both ways.

Also, does anyone else think it's obscene that this animal would call the rape of children a result of their own actions? Raped children are responsible for their own actions? What a disgusting thing to say. What, besides religion, would make an otherwise normal person say such a disgusting thing?

 

I don't pray for money , that would be stupid and selfish . I just pray , God isn't my banker lol . Also i don't have a borrow money so no CC repayments for me

I like it how you desperately try to twist even the simplest things . According to you if you rape a child it's the child's fault - this is the sick twisted mind you've been talking about for so long , don't worry people always project their inner dirt on to others . Have a good day mister sick frak .

 

Hey you Moffey, what about you? You just posted it and saying nothing about this?
Are you believer or atheist?

 

Apocal have you tried praying to me? I'll try to send more dough to you.

 

The whole point of believing in God, if you are so inclined to conceptualize it like that, is to maintain your humility. Assigning human qualities to the divine is not humble.

 

good post , but a bit off.. there are many reasons to believe in or worship any deity. There are several gods that help you with beer-brewing specifically.

 

God... need to be praised because God wants to see His follower, whether they love HIM or not....
We need to praise God because it could fill our empty in the world.. and to show how much we need and love GOD
although GOD love more than we love GOD
although GOD firstly LOVE us than we love GOD ( we are just the second) ....
Thanks a lot...

 

Praise Him, as you respect Him that much, but you have to do good things, I mean it all depends on yourself too.

 

Don't try to weasel out of it, you said you respect your god because he looks after your business. Apparently that's why he doesn't have time to help children who are being raped, tortured and abused. babies who are dying from aids. Parents who have to decide whether their children should die from dehydration or from contaminated water. they aren't the important ones, you and your money are. What a disgusting thing to think deserves "respect".

 

Would you like to quote me on that stOx ? Your pathetic attempts to twist words no longer amuse me you sick frak . It took some time to crack your mind map but the repetitive though pattern is quite clear . Over the past years you've posted about raped children more times then I could count ; everyone has a reason to become an atheist , something that pushes them to ignore the lack of answers , something emotional . For some people is that loss of a loved one , for some is committing a heinous deed , for some women is having an abortion ; in your case is being a pedophile . I hope you get arrested you sick frak .

 

You know, I've noticed the same thing. stOx has a creepy fixation on the raping of children. It's obvious that he enjoys writing about it. His pattern seems to be that since God does not exist, there is no morality and therefore the raping of children is O.K.

I just spent the last four days at the hospital with my elderly aunt. She finally passed away at 1:55AM this morning. God was there.

 

Raping children - child porn, if they enjoy it something wrong with their brains.

Sorry to hear that Corwin. My heartfelt condolences and may she Rest in Peace with God Almighty !

 

This needed to be said but there are worse aspects of concept worship to criticise. Going to war with certainty that the only god is backing them is probably the most disturbing. Not meaning to be at all glib but at least the child abusers (who are among the most disgusting beings on the planet) don't believe they have the backing of a supreme being... do they?

 

These are things your god supposedly permits. It's not my motives you should question, its his. Unless of course you don't actually believe in it any more than i do, in which case, we would expect the exact reaction that we routinely see from you regarding the abuse of children and your gods unwillingness to do anything about it, which is indifference.

For me, the rationalisation is simple. Psychopaths exist and they do terrible things. For you it's not so easy. You also have to rationalise your supposedly loving god standing by, witnessing everything, and doing nothing. This usually leads you people to make the abhorrent claim that the children deserve it for being sinners or that it's some kind of twisted test deliberately engineered by your loving god.

 

So you are a rich guy now? I'm keeping my fingers crossed.

 

Not sure what you mean. But if I may guess - she was a pauper BUT we made sure she lacked for nothing. She was surrounded by love.

stOx, I understand your position, I do. The past few days I will openly admit I was angry, frustrated, furious at a God that would "allow" my loving Aunt to waste away as the cancer in her gut caused her agony. "Is, this a lesson, God? Is this something *I* need to learn? O.K., I've learned your fucking lesson, now take away her pain. What the fuck kind of God are you, anyway?" Don't worry, stOx, any rant you have thrown at God on this is nothing compared to what I felt against God. Family and sons were there, but I was the prick saying to everyone "this is what we have to do. hey, call the nurse, she's in pain and needs more drugs. (no one gets up. I get the nurse, I come back) get the fuck out of my seat. Why are you standing around? Hold her hand. What, you think this is a social occasion? Then you are useless, go home"
(I never actually said "fuck" when I was there, but it feels good to write what I left out)

Now, I've always been mission oriented, and in their defense the rest of my family was probably overwhelmed. But the selfish fucks were there to make themselves feel better and mourn her passing, and my mission was to ease HER suffering (yes, I thought about that. No way to practically & swiftly do it, and I would get ratted out by the machines before I was done). Consciousness was cruel to her, my intellect was in overdrive, I eventually figured it out - whenever I told the nurses she was in pain, they would give her more drugs. ONLY when I told the nurses she was in pain. So, ultimately, my enemy was lawyers. Even though she was obviously at the end, the hospital could still get sued ("she would have lived another two hours if they hadn't given her that last dose, Your Honor") So, my mind went to gaming the system ("why did you give her so much medication?" "Because her nephew said she was in pain"). In the end, as we left for the night I figured out the right words to say.

I've never believed in the bearded guy in the sky type of God that makes decisions like humans, so my angry rants were inapplicable. But in the end, I believe we are in the middle of a battle of good and evil and both sides are evenly matched (heresy for most Christians). Sometimes, evil wins, but good has better tactics. We are not God's chess pieces, we are soldiers with free will and God is the general. We can fight, or retreat, or run off the battlefield. But no one can do it alone!

P.S. I've never been sensitive on this board and I'm not now. It's impossible to offend me about this or hurt my feelings.

 

Corwin, you are a good guy, even though something is wrong with your head. I'm sorry that you didnt get any money ( I really am ) and that your aunt suffered. Now think how many people had died of cancer and other nastiness without any drug medication before.
As for good VS evil, there is no one to define which is which without being biased, and there is no evil that won't be good for somebody.

 

Hahahahahah... getting interested. Why you people always arguing about this things?
even god exits or not, is there any advantage for us??? Stox, I'm really sorry if you are the chlidren who being raped, but if you choose to be an atheist because of that. GO FOR IT!!! Be what you want to be. As a human we have a free will, free to believe what is real to ourself. God is something that we should not think about. CMIIW

 

Thanks for the, uh, backhanded compliment...? Well, then the discussion should be what is good and what is evil? You are right in that "there is no one to define which is which without being biased". Hitler thought that the laws of nature and survival of the fittest applied to humans, so that weakness was bad.

About people dying of cancer before drugs - strangely enough, I suspect that before drugs and modern medicine they died quicker. In the end it still comes back to no one can do it alone. IMO, more pain is a result of isolation (lack of Love) than community.