NON-BIBLICAL Evidence for the Crucifixion of Jesus Christ

I am definitely on the wrong planet.


I see heaven as a place where things like murder, lying, hate, deceiving, NEVER happen. That is why they
call it "heaven" right?

 

Maybe Corwin refers to the hippies heavens

 

I'm referring to a parallel of rules. Christ made a distinction between "the Kingdom of God" and "the Kingdom of heaven". The words in Greek and Aramaic are quire distinct and so their use is quite intentional.

In much the same way as "Do not Kill" is inaccurate - it is "Do Not Murder". The words in Hebrew are different.

If you want to approach the Bible accurately, scientifically, and historically, it's important to understand the technical and cultural significance of the words as they were used back then. When you have a Bible that allows you to study the original Greek, you learn so much more.

 

We wouldn't be humans if we didn't have those capabilities. Besides why would you want to live in a (supposedly) heaven that people have no choice anymore and everyone just does the right thing by default (not by choice anymore).

 

Ah so hatred is not natural but murdering other people out of personal interest is ? Nice to see your real self pop out

 

In other words , you are ok with abortions? Good stuff isn't it?

 

Having the capabilities is far different than them being natural. Again, just because you're naturally a hating person doesn't mean everyone is. lol

 

This thread is way off topic. What if "default", as it just got called, was actually normal? Imagine a world filled with people who only wanted to do what was right? Yeah, that is HEAVEN. Which brings us to morals... and everyone has their own opinion on that, right?


There is an angel on my right shoulder and a devil on my left. The angel says, "Unsubscribe!" and the devil says, "No, dont unsubscribe!". Hmmm... what to do?

 

When you say everyone wanted to do the right thing it mean everyone choosing to do the right thing. Without the choice the deeds are worthless.

 

That's perfect for them. They hate taking responsibility for themselves. That's why they invent a sky daddy to hold their hand and a human sacrifice to absolve them of their wrongdoings. Christianity is the religion of the man-child.

 

So when you murder someone in cold blood for personal gain it's self defense lol . BTW in case you didn't noticed you've also called hatred natural , lying natural and deceiving natural

 

Where you live there is no other way to have a self-defense. In America you wouldn't have to murder anybody to defend yourself, since killing in self -defense is more or less legal. It'd be very stupid to injure somebody in self-defense, but killing is ok.

 

ORLY ? http://www.pulpless.com/gunclock/stats.html

 

I'm not Orly. Having a gun is nice, however when a lot of nutcases have it too, that isnt that great. Still I support the 2nd amendment

 

Hmmm, I don't follow. Explain how you are applying "murder" and "kill" in this context.

I support Roe v Wade, but that's only because I am one of the few people that read the actual decision.

BTW, "Good stuff isn't it?" is a bad use of a ratifier phrase - right?

Why does this make no sense?

 

One answer to two questions: you cannot possibly murder anyone if it's permitted by law; thus killing fetuses and violent thugs in USA is not a murder, but it is somewhere in Italy or Spain.

Also, as a Christian you are supposed to respect and obey any powers that might be, and all their laws;

 

According to Roe v Wade, a woman's womb contains a mass of cells before those cells become a fetus. As the text states about when that is, as it discusses the history of the morality of abortions:

It is undisputed that at common law, abortion performed before "quickening" - the first recognizable movement of the fetus in utero, appearing usually from the 16th to the 18th week of pregnancy 20 - was not an indictable offense.

So, once the mass of cells has a brain and is capable of independent movement, an abortion becomes murder. So, Roe v Wade stated that abortion before 20 weeks is not murder. That was also the position of the Vatican until the 19th century when the church changed it's position to life begins at conception.

Never heard of that. Where did you hear it?

 

I aM pretty sure the law is more complicated than that. What if a bunch of evil lesbians will kidnap you and plant a baby in you? That is doable nowdays. At what point you would decide to " keep it" ?

 

Hmm New Testament, anyone? Saint Peter to Romans?

 

Not Enough Information. it's a big book.