Is Koran have more accurate prediction than Bible?

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  1. Skynt

    Skynt Peon

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    #161
    <--- lol

    I do think the bible has some accurate predictions, one being Jesus Christ, and a second being the rebirth of Israel - and its population, and its environmental change which statistics prove, was a miracle. The quality level of the bible has much more creditablility then the Koran, for example, the Koran obviously contridicts itsself in many ways. One instance you'll have it being peaceful with jews and christians, and then it'll go all haywire and speak against having christians or jews as friends at all.
     
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  2. SuperSEO

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    #162
    I also would like to know the answers to these questions that were posted:

    http://www.ethicalatheist.com/docs/questions_for_god.html

    like,

    How come 2 versions of Bible? Did GOD get it wrong the first time?

    If GOD is all knowing, he should know before he created Adam & Eve that they are going to sin. So why did he create Adam knowing that? And then punish all of us for sin?

    Are humans different from slaves in term of "free choice"?
    Slaves have free choice. But they will get punished in a form of whipping, or beating, etc. if they don't follow their master.
    As for human beings, if you don't believe in GOD, you will get punishment in the form of going to hell.
    Why not be merciful, kind, loving and send everyone including murderers, rapists, and terrorists to heaven?

    If you think about it, GOD created murderers, rapists, and terrorists also. The buck stops there since he's GOD.

    Also, contradictions in the Bible:
    http://skeptically.org/bible/id8.html

    http://www.ethicalatheist.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=722&highlight=#722
     
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  3. timsdd

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    #163
    these are so weak!!!

    what praytel does making an offering to God have to do with being appointed a Judge by God???



    give up??? Nothing.

    they are not even closely talking about the same things!!! are people so blind and dumb that they actually think there is any truth to these so-called contradictions?

    A better title for this might be 101 (TAKEN OUT OF CONTEXT) "CONTRADICTIONS"—Old Testament





    using their logic you might also call upon a modern day judge who says that the law states that murder is not permitted but oh guess what, you're being sentenced to death

    oh, there's a contradiction there huh????

    jeez, I wonder if anything was left out???
     
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  4. timsdd

    timsdd Peon

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    #164
    here's another GEM!

    A) Moses was great. Ex.11:3.
    B) Moses was meek. Numbers 12:3.

    A) 1st of all, it says Moses was highly regarded by the Egyptians...it says nothing of him being "GREAT"
    B) Meek aka Humble

    so you can't be regarded as one thing and be another at the same time.

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    like right now you might be reading this and be thinking,
    A) hey, you're a real ass

    B) in reality I am also shy

    can I not be both???

    again, one has nothing to do with the other!!!
     
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  5. timsdd

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    #165
    WTH?? Yeah, this makes total sense.

    let's compare populations, one being in 970BC - the other 1280BC - yeah, that's an accurate supposed contradiction.

    yeah, that would be like me saying the population of the USA is 12million and 260million.

    oh!!! did I mention that one was 1804 and the other 2006???

    please.
     
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  6. debunked

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    #166
    Many people think that meek means weak. It is quite funny, because it is similar only by sound.

    Meekness can also mean strenth under control. Humble, (not proud) so if anyone can be perfectly meek, it would be Jesus.
     
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  7. SuperSEO

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    #167
    So how are men different from slaves?

    Also, I always hear people say "Jesus died for our sins", and he sacrificed his life for us. I thought Jesus came back to life and he is going to live forever. So, how is that a sacrifice?

    I am pretty sure a lot of people will be willing to do the same (sacrifice their life) to go to heaven, live forever, and be with God.

    so "why is Jesus, and his sacrifice for our sins, considered the ultimate gift? Was this not much of a sacrifice on the part of Jesus? Given that God have always existed (think on an infinite time-scale), Jesus’ sojourn on earth of thirty-some years amounts to a brief flicker of time. Consider then, that Jesus had to come among us mere mortals and ultimately suffered the pain of death upon the cross. How great was that sacrifice for Jesus, knowing that he would shortly be sitting once more at your right hand? Compare that to the rebellious son of a rich family, (let's make him atheist for the sake of argument) who enlists in the army at the start of WWII. He becomes a medic and is sent, along with his regiment, to capture a small island in the South Pacific. As the battle rages, he moves forward under a hail of gunfire to aid a fallen comrade. As he reaches the soldier and begins to dress the wound, a round from an enemy machine gun rips into his abdomen. He continues to apply pressure to his comrade's wound until another round strikes him in the right shoulder, knocking him backwards. He is unable to rise as the machine gun fire intensifies. He lies there as his platoon is driven back. Bleeding. Dying. Seeing nothing but darkness as he closes his eyes for the last time. Was this not the ultimate gift?"
     
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  8. timsdd

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    #168
    hmmmm, I need to remind myself of that on here! 'lost in translation/pronunciation' it could be from time to time.

    well put on the 2nd part there as well.
     
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    #169
    1) slaves cannot choose of their own free will, men can!

    2) How is that a sacrifice?? I take it you've never watched the movie "The Passion" :)

    he made the ultimate sacrifice in that he came to earth as a man, was subjected to the 'same' temptations that we face, and possibly the biggest sacrifice is laying down his life and undergoing a horrendous torture in the process. Tell me how that could not be a sacrifice?

    ALSO, and I think even worse for Him than the death and torture, the humiliation of which he suffered was the moment in time that he was separated from the Father!!

    The first time throughout all eternity he ever had to experience such separation!!! I guarantee you that was worse than 1K deaths.


    3) YES!! your point?

    just because someone is 'willing' doesn't mean that they would go through it, in lieu of self preservation. His own disciples, most notably Peter even denied Him - swearing days before that there was NO WAY he would ever deny Christ!
     
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    #170
    Finally, someone using his brain. Guys your time would have way more value if you spent it posting about how we all can get together and understand each other.
     
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    #171
    thanks - yeah, that puts things in perspective. :rolleyes:
     
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  12. angellica2017

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    #172
    Yeah... we want understanding each other... so please remove the bad words about Christianity in Koran... Would they? No they wouldn't!
    Cause Koran is the only books which jeers another idealism...
     
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  13. Ibn Juferi

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    #173
    Ah, you mean the part where the Quran denounces that pseudo-monotheistic faith which is called "Christianity". Unlikely to be "removed" anytime soon :D

    - MENJ
     
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    #174
    It will be remembered no more. - revelation -
     
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  15. Ibn Juferi

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    #175
    A book which teaches about whores riding on seven headed dragons will certainly not be remembered.

    - MENJ
     
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    #176
    I wonder if you have taken the time to read about what happened to Jesus. He was tortured and nailed to a cross (a form of punishment so painful that the word "excruciating" is derived from it).

    And that merely describes the physical parts of what happened. What can be said about the Son of God having the sin of the world laid on Him? There are no words to describe the horror and grotesque nature of what it meant for Jesus to be made the sacrificial lamb of God and take the eternal punishment of sin.

    There was a point too that God the Father turned from Jesus the Son. Jesus cried out "my God, my God why have you forsaken me..." The nature of this event was so horrific that darkness covered the area and a massive earthquake happened upon His death.

    To trivialize this and say that lots of people would be willing to do it (essentially saying "it's no big deal") demonstrates a complete lack of understanding.

    As for the rest, I won't digress into the humiliation and condescension of Christ to step out of glory and power to take on a human body and suffer at the hands of sinners; to have God mocked, spit on, tortured, stripped naked, and killed. What it means that Christ is eternally joined to man through the incarnation and that His resurrection brought in a completely new order (glorified humanity).
     
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    #177
    Well put.
    If everyone tries to imagine of being punished for not commiting anything against the law and in this way, it doubles the pain and more usually.

    God had to forsake him only for this very moment or else he couldn't have died for our sins and rise again after 3 days, therefore to put us in rightstanding with the Father.

    Bubbling nonesense again? Keep on reading.
     
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  18. Ibn Juferi

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    #178
    Well I agree that its "nonsense" but it came from your own New Testament.

    - MENJ
     
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    #179
    I'm talking about that what comes from your keyboard blind man.

    There were attempts to corrupt it, but didn't work out.
     
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    #180
    Name-calling, name-calling.

    - MENJ
     
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