Assad Warns to Set Fire on Middle-East in Case of US Attack

So you are saying Hamas run Gaza has changed their charter? Last time I checked it still called for the destruction of Israel. Are you saying Abbas is willing to recognize Israel as a Jewish state, an Israeli state, a circumcised state, or any other type of state they decide to declare themselves as(they are their own Democratic country after all)?

From where I sit, there have been no such concessions, or even hints that such concessions will be made, so how can you say there will be peace?

Here I thought this thread was about Assad threatening to kill everyone in Israel if he wasn't allowed to massacre his own people. Perhaps the Syrian people should focus on dealing with the totalitarian dictatorship in their own country before they address trying to recover the Golan heights they lost because they were unable to live with the existence of the state of Israel.

I can't speak for Obama, but from a congressional standpoint and a US citizen standpoint, Israel will never stand alone. Things are a lot different now than they were in 1967. Military aggression against Israel would put the USA in the situation to fully justify the use of US military force in support of it's ally. I think you would see quite a few US allies help out as well.

Their country got approved by the UN in 1948. They were simply unwilling to accept it because they couldn't live with the Jews next door.

What did we do in Egypt? We sure as hell didn't start or support the protests. We played no part in Egypt, Tunisia, Syria, Saudi Arabia, Jordan, or any other dictatorship, and Lybia was, is, and remains an embarrassment.

Perhaps doing nothing is what you think has improved our appearance, but to that I would say, how could we have acted otherwise? Libya was no ally, never was. Egypt was supported by the US based on 30 year old decision making and had always lacked for a better alternative(not sure we found one). Israel, on the other hand, is a very clear cut ally, and the neighbors all have ties to the terrorist organizations we are currently at war with. When you consider these facts, it leaves several clear cut outcomes:

1) The US will veto Palestinian efforts to bypass the peace talks
2) The US will support Israel militarily against any act of aggression by it's neighbors
3) Palestinians will have to negotiate peace to end the occupation.

Its not perfect, its not pretty, its just the way it is. The real concern for you should be Iran's nuclear program. Given Iran's direct funding and arming of anti-Israeli militant groups, a nuke going off somewhere in Israel will probably mean nukes going off in Iran, and Ahmadinijad has as much as said the Iranians are happy to be a Martyr state. How does it feel to be involuntarily lumped into a suicide attack squad?

 

Mullahs are against peace process and two states solution. in this matter Mullahs and Israel are in same side. I love to see country of Palestine and peace in that region just because of seeing our regime become out of motivation. peace for them can extend to us I guess.

 

Abbas recognized Israel already and when he demand to UN for established Palestine, it's mean should recognize other members of united nation. recently Khalid Mashael and other Hamas top officials Supported Abbas in this way.
Iran hasn't good economy and no longer can financially support Hamas, beside Arabs countries are hurry to recognize Israel because worried about Iran. they already told that when country of Palestine establish they will do that.

yeah right now they focus on rid of Assad and release of that tyrant. it will happen soon I think but what will be next step for them?

Arab and Jews are cousin from same race and realized that haven't any alternative, except recognize each other and live beside. situation will changed and Israel won't be only democracy on that region then American will ponder why should they send a lot of money annually for Jews when they aren't in danger and no great menace.

you convinced Mubarak to give up power and supported Egyptian protesters as I remember. in Libya, you involved as part of NATO and passed that UN action against Qaddafi when he was in verge of wiping his opponent in Bin-Qazi

 

And yet Hamas' charter still calls for the eradication of Jews and the destruction of Israel. Is it your suggestion that, because somebody within Hamas says he is willing to acknowledge Israel's right to exist that Israel should ignore the charter of the organization? Regarding Abbas' willingness to recognize Israel, he had this to say last October.

This, of course, conflicts with his earlier claims that he is more than happy to let Israel define itself as whatever it wants. At issue here seems to be the right of return for Palestinians, which would instantly make the Jews a minority in their own Democracy and have the net effect of destroying Israel from the inside out. Perhaps that is Abbas' desire, but IMO any reasonable person looking at this thing from the outside can see that these types of things need to be hammered out over peace talks rather than dueling press conferences. If outside pressure should be brought to bear, it should be to force both sides back to the talks without preconditions such as a return to 1967 borders, the right of return, or the lack thereof.

What is the next step for Egypt? They are a LONG way off from a stable government. Syria hasn't even deposed it's dictator. Once that is done, stability will be at least as far off in the distance for them, assuming Hezbollah does not take over. Worrying about Israeli occupation of a small piece of land right now like worrying about construction plans for a large new financial district in their capitol. When the revolution is complete, and stability has returned, there will be plenty of time for that.

Sure there is an alternative. Worldwide terrorism, promotion of the caliphate, and continuing bloodshed. Its just not a very attractive alternative.

Is the lesson of the last 60 years really that Israel has nothing to fear from it's neighbors? Really?

Mubarak was cooked, done, finito, stick a fork in him. His own army refused to oppress the rebellion (unlike Iran, Bahrain, and the Saudis ), so there is absolutely nothing the US could have done to keep him in power. Obama got a lot of sh*t over here for not supporting a long time US ally(and dictator), but he probably did the smartest thing he could have and stated the obvious.

Yah, but Libya has oil . We didnt need it, but our allies in Europe did. Besides, Libya was a long time state sponsor of terror, so whats not to hate about them.

I'm not trying to take away from how the US might be perceived in the middle east. I'm just pointing out the logic behind of some of these decisions that you say were well received by many Arabs. The smartest thing the Palestinians could do would be to make the decision for the US to support their full statehood the logical and obvious choice. Electing Hamas to power in 2006, while the rest of the free world was at war with violent Islamists made for an obvious and logical choice, just not one that was very good for Palestinian statehood.

 

yeah you are right, Hamas always say they never accept Israel but anyway if they want to be part of Palestine as a country then they should recognize Israel. if not then no new country will establish and they should face Palestinian people. best option for them will be a veto by USA.

yeah long way for Egypt to reach democracy because of remaining military regime there but guess next year they will elect their president and MPs. in Syria I guess it will be different bloody and straight after that they will see chaos probably but guess Turkey hardly work on them to built their new regimen.

yeah somewhat looks like Carter, we never forget what Carter done to us, never forgive him! lol

 

I dont think so. the nuclear story was about Russia and US.

theres a russian nuclear weapon that will bypass any existing shield:

truth or not? everyone can decide themselves