Assad Warns to Set Fire on Middle-East in Case of US Attack

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  1. N_F_S

    N_F_S Active Member

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    #21
    well, that depends on what war are you talking about. Considering nuclear capabilities US is no better than Russia. Other than that if you mean a soldier war, here again china is the biggest power.

    and thats why the "friend" will get hurt.
     
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    Obamanation Well-Known Member

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    #22
    Interesting. So China has Carrier Battle Groups? Predator Drones? AC-150s?

    I think what you mean to say is that China has the largest conventional army. A friend of mine used to say 1.7 billion people armed with nothing but sporks could win almost any war, but that is simply not true. Militarily, the US will remain the world's sole super power for some time to come.
     
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    #23
    *sigh* You missed the point by miles..

    It's not about who got what capabilities. It is about ones interest in waging a war..
    I'm not sure Russia would pull out it's nuclear arsenal to defend punitive Syria and risk a total annihilation of earth as we know it. Nor I think that China will mobilize it's troops to fight a direct war against US.

    As I said earlier - Russian economy is growing, but it is still pretty weak economically, it can not afford a war, that too against US. Chinese business interests are with US, it will be only foolish and suicidal for China to start a war against NATO. Unlike many leaders of the world, both Putin and Jintao are freaking sharp, they know what they are doing..


    Also: Troops are meaningless when you are not fighting a war on your turf. You need super carriers and air superiority. China stands no where close to US in that department. No one does.
     
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    #24
    You are absolutely right.

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    babak44 Active Member

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    #25
    interesting Apocal although not related to thread. thanks.

    don't think USA willing to start war with Syria too, even if no one support Syria.
    Assad mass killing Syrian people and world nearly silence.
    just image Syria after revolution, it will turn to a Sunni country and can be close ally to Turkey and Egypt, then I guess Israel shall give back Golan. I guess Assad isn't a real threat to Israel at all, nor Iran or Hezbollah and Hamas.
    nightmare for Israel is losing land and their colonies and it will happen when a united Islamic Sunnis counties pressure on them by leadership of Turkey. yeah Israel will lose their legitimacy and land. Turkey has democracy and well economy and can be a great rival instead of Iran.
     
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    #26
    Preorder, why not use torrent.
     
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    #27
    One word - Multiplayer.
    I was speaking hypothetically.. US needn't and shouldn't attack/invade Syria..

    I don't underestimate Israel, they have proven in past that they are more than capable of defending themselves against invasions.
    And not to forget NATO support (sans Turkey) if needed.
     
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    #28
    The multiplayer facility still remains. I still play cod 5 with my freinds.
     
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    #29
    Maybe because ... you know ... there is this crazy idea that if you buy a product from a company that company might continue to make high quality products ?

    Nee that can't be true .
     
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    #30
    I mean with a war on the ground, China has lots of people, as I said without a nuclear attack or some other method not involving human power:) I doubt that anyone would be thinking to war with China on the ground (i.e invade).

    well I wasnt talking about particular Syria, I was talking in general. And I dont think US/NATO will attack Syria either.
     
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    #31
    Considering that you try to be funny i infer that you mean to say "If you buy a product from a company that will continue to make high quality products". So what
     
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    #32
    Doesn't matter.. I can afford to buy so I buy my games..

    Pre-ordered Battlefield 3 too, can't wait to play it..
     
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    #33
    Pre-ordered NFS run. :)I rarely buy games.
     
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    #34
    No, you only mentioned Nuclear war vs conventional war. Now you want to revise your statement to talk about an invasion of China, as if anyone would want to do that besides the Russians(and historical Japanese). The US has no need to invade China, but if there were a non-nuclear conflict against them on some other nation's soil, Carrier battle groups give the US the unique capability to project power from great distance. Like Iraq, air power would be used to soften ground forces, until land forces could take over. Troop size becomes somewhat meaningless when you own the air.

    Of course, this is all chest thumping and jerking off, since China and the US are now financially joined at the hip. Its hard to do business and obtain payments from someone who is trying to kill you. Doesn't make much sense.
     
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    #35
    Not into racing Genre.. I love FPS..

    Many people do..

    'nuff said
     
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    #36
    Considering that you guys and China just vetoed the UN resolution that would impose sanction on Syria there is no chance , especially since protests have started to die down .

    Also in case of a nuclear war NATO has a missile shield it can call upon . If you where to out the outdated Chinese army against NATOs army in a ground invasion China would still loose . NATO bolsters over 800 million people under its umbrella and China has 1.3 billions , given the huge difference in force multipliers and China's dependence on NATO economic power there is no Chance is hell they could defend themselves . In fact that odds won't be equal even if the mighty Red Army will join on China's side .
     
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    #37
    yeah you are right, Israel shown that could win any battle and perfect to show themselves a victim and vulnerable. I guess Turkey who love to gain Muslim leadership with help of others will proceed in human right and political way and will send back Israel to 1967 borders. Abbas went in that way already. the middle East is changing and other rulers are coming.
     
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    #38
    They won't get 1967 borders without making concessions, even if every last Arab neighbor applies all the political pressure they can.

    1948 - Two state solution Arabs are unhappy with so they attack Israel - Israel kicks their ass
    1967 - Surrounding Arab states unhappy with the continued existence of israel attack Israel - Israel kicks their ass and occupies the "West Bank"
    Today - Arabs still unhappy with the continued existence of Israel want Israel to forget about the results of the 1967 war without conceding that Israel be allowed to continue to exist in peace.

    Who in their right mind would go back to pre-1967 borders without addressing the cause that created them? When political pressure fails, I'm sure we'll see another war which the Arabs will once again lose.
     
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    #39
    concession will be peace. Syrian people in the future demand to get back their land with help of Turkey Saudi, Egypt and other Arab countries via diplomacy according to UN resolution and manifesto. if Israel refuse then will be alone and abandon.

    right now Palestinian waiting to see their country approve by UN. Abbas accepted Israel as a country in neighbor and other Arabic countries beside Turkey endurance him, just Israel hope in Hamas and Syria to save them from this nightmare. veto by USA isn't easy job I guess. USA during Arab awakening, tuned to good face after what you done in Egypt and Libya, you should not lose it such easy.
     
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    #40
    You sound more and more like the crazy Mullahs who run your country.
     
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