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  1. #1
    Dual-Core Opteron 1218
    4GB ECC DDR2 RAM
    Dual 320GB Hard Drives
    2 IP Addresses
    1000GB Transfer per month
    $86.99
    FREE SETUP!
    No Contracts!


    Order 888-576-5594 or online: http://hostdrive.com/bargain
     
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  2. ryan1918

    ryan1918 Active Member

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    #2
    I really really hope this isn't your data center.

    hostdrive.com/datacenter/dctour/source/img_3262.php
     
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  3. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #3
    It is... And why do you ask that?
     
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    ryan1918 Active Member

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    #4
    Because I don't think it would qualify as a data center, what kind of security do you even have just having a lock on a door is nothing closed to what is required to be considered safe, do you have backup generators, what kind of cooling do you have what are you using to prevent overheating or getting too cold, what kind of fire suppression do you have? There is many things that would make this just a at home computer room vs a data center.. Do you even have insurance for it besides home owners insurance, and who can access the rooms/servers? Do you have elevated floors to prevent overheating? Not to mention but you have lots of hazards with all them wires just hanging out there like that.

    What do you consider your "data center" what Tier? You are offering 99.9% but if you don't offer backup generators then you can't even state that.
     
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  5. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #5
    Really? So you'd rather I post pictures of other people's data centers and lie and pretend that its my own?

    All the information you are looking for is clearly listed on our web site. We've been around a VERY long time. I think you've been drinking too much of the DC koolaid posted on the reseller sites.

    The difference here is we do not nor have we ever pretended to be anything other than what we are.

    Ryan, you've obviously only seen the pictures and marketing fluff posted on other brick and mortar template hosting sites touting biometric scanners and armed guards. We've been in business since 1997. Of course we're insured. You don't stay in business for almost 15 years without insurance.

    I bet this is the first time you've actually seen a provider post actual images of their own facility? Don't be fooled by the bs you see listed on other web sites. You'd be surprised what the facilities, if they exist really look like ;)
     
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    Riboflavin Well-Known Member

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    #6
    You seem to be the one who is confused Mia, reselling and colocation are two completely different things. I would much rather rent my dedicated servers from a reliable company who makes an effort to put all of their machines in a real datacenter than some guy who threw some old Opteron machines in a spare closet.
     
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  7. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #7
    Confused about what exactly? Who said anything about colocation?

    Care to define what a "real" data center is? You're making some pretty harsh assumptions...

    Again, I don't claim to be anything more than I am.

    I could very easily post a bunch of pictures of raise floors if it made you and Ryan feel all warm and fuzzy, but when something goes wrong and you start asking why you were down, well... I guess that's another story.

    Again, been doing this a very long time. Appearances can be pretty deceiving.

    We chose to run our business in our own facility years ago. It was a decision designed to fulfill the needs of a niche' market. And we've been very successful at it. I think our longevity itself speaks volumes to that end.

    I'm really not certain why you two have chosen to tag team my offer.

    If I can be of any other service, or offer a more custom quote, I'm happy to oblige.
     
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    ryan1918 Active Member

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    #8
    I'm sorry I don't just stick my servers in a place I see a few pictures or videos, I fly or drive to where they are and actually see what they have, I wouldn't have 300 some odd servers in a place if I had no idea what they actually had running, they are a pretty huge data center, and yes they have armed guards, bio scanners, fingerprint scanners, and yes they have guns, backup diesel generators, fire suppression, elevated floors, locked cages, and many other things.

    Just because you have been around for XX amount of years doesn't mean anything, If I had a server running in my closest since 1980 and got a $100 ups, a air condition, and fiber optics running into it, does that make it a data center? I don't think so, I wasn't talking trash I was just trying to get some answers out of you, which you avoided every one of them. You do really need better security for your servers though, you have a wood door with a cheap door lock, at least put a metal door with a deadbolt on it if you want to pass a 12 year old lock pickers skills, Because your not only risking your own hardware, your risking other peoples data, which is a hefty lawsuit if something does happen. Answer what I asked above, please!
     
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    sambling Well-Known Member Affiliate Manager

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    #9
    I think you need to be a bit more respectful. Running a hosting business for 14 years is no mean feat. If you are protecting data of national security then yes Armed Guards, guns, fingerprint sensors may be necessary, but otherwise most threats are likely to come from hackers. Anyway they look like they're based in an office, which is likely to be a lot less well known and thus targeted.

    Have you ever even tried lock-pricking? I doubt any 12 year old would have the patience to do it.

    Good on you Mia for being honest. :)
     
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    ryan1918 Active Member

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    #10
    Actually a kid that has $20-40 can get a nice lock picking kit that can pick a good set of general locks, even cars.

    I know very well about security I have been into computer ever since I was 12 years old, so 16 years, I used to run one of the largest security forums in the world, I have also been raided by the United states secret service and the fbi, I don't think it would make you any more of a target then a small company, when we choose targets its based on lesser security not size, if you can target one site with something vs 1000 sites with something it's more wise to do the 1000 because you have a chance of doing more damage or getting more out of it then the single one.

    Yeah I give him that he's being honest but I hate to say it but he is probably losing more customers then gaining with them pictures being up there, he is better off leaving them out, and giving a little info about his data center then leaving them up there, it reminds me of a company called foonet back then which was based in a basement, Any true company wouldn't trust there data, or servers with a company due to the size, how it looks and security them are the main reasons for people choosing places, and reputation. I can bet the main reason he is choosing what he has vs a actual data center is he thinks he is saving money, BUT I believe he is really losing money, You could co-locate to a data center, you wouldn't have to pay for all the extras, the only thing you might lose on is free working time vs paying for it or driving to it, but he would benefit from security, fire, cooling, power, and internet pricing a data center can get better pricing then a smaller company and so many other things.
     
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  11. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #11
    Many of our clients have flown here. We've received visits from Germany, France, Rome, Argentina, etc... If you are placing all your servers in one place, you're creating no more redundancy than the place you've hosted your servers with. No data center is unsusceptible to disaster. I think it's rather naive to think that one location is better or more secure than another. Its even more naive to compare what we do here to what is done in larger facilities.

    Ryan, you've not asked me any questions. You're here to pester and annoy. And I'm happily feeding you. I've looked at every single one of your dozen or so posts here since you joined a couple days ago. In every case you've trolled into a thread to bash the OP.

    The answer's you are looking for are clearly listed on my web site. As I said before, you're making assumptions. And appearances are very deceiving. You're looking at a room inside of a room. Again, I've not managed to stay in business 14 + years by losing data.

    Ironically I did start with a T1 and a closet in a home. As did most everyone out there. I know you'd like to believe you're looking at some rinky dink operation run out of a garage. If it makes you happy to perceive it as such, great.

    You're not going to last very long here if you keep hyjacking threads and bashing people. ;) If that's what you want, join the crowd in P/R.

    Now you can take some time to visit the web site again and look for the answers to the questions/comments you have made. Those answers are listed on EVERY SINGLE PAGE on the web site. Here's a brochure which should help answer any other questions. http://hostdrive.com/colocation/pdf/Colo-Brochure.pdf

    Please try to be a bit more respectful while your here.

    Why I continue feed trolls escapes me...

    We provide a niche's market service for a select group of clientele. Again, nothing on our web site is meant to mislead or distract people from reality. We are what we are. We have customers that have been with us since we started. That too is no easy feat. How do we do it? We provide a very down home personalized service. We're a family business. Even the people we employ who have been with us a very long time are considered FAMILY. Our customers are considered FAMILY. And all are treated as such.

    We serve customers who's needs are small and large. From the mom and pop software provider or online store, to several very large web hosting resellers from around the world. I think you'd be pretty surprised by some of the clients we host for.

    Locks can be compromised, surveillance cameras and a security system? Not so much... Of course it helps being located between a FD and PD... station. ;)
     
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  12. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #12
    Its pretty competitive with what's currently selling in this market. I can certainly raise it for you.

    In any event, this server has sold. We do have more available here: http://hostdrive.com/bargain

    The go pretty fast so don't wait long!
     
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    #13
    Your pdf doesn't explain anything nor has it answered any of my questions, but as I can see your trying to avoid them, so I won't bother asking again, because I will assume you have no fire protection and no real cooling except maybe a air conditioner, oh and what I post is irrelevant because the fact is every post I made I've show the OP something that someone should know about instead of find out later, I don't lie or make false accusations.

    Oh a side note, why are you using a picture in your pdf that isn't even your data center? The very top picture of the guy at the rack is another data center? Are you trying to make sure room look more clean? I hope not.
     
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    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #14
    Just so everyone here knows just who Ryan Scott Lee is. He's the punk/script kiddie that got booted from WHT and other forums like DP for pulling the same crap he has been here.

    He has made it a habit of bashing hosts, particularly USA based hosts that do not put up with his crap, hacking, botnet, and other seedy endeavors.

    Care to explain why you find it necessary to host outside the US? Care to let everyone know what it is you really do? You're not a security expert Ryan.

    BTW, the picture you are referring to is what is known a "stock art" that we paid for.

    " I don't lie or make false accusations." Actually you do. Do you really want me to bring some of that to light here? Ryan, just go away.
     
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    ryan1918 Active Member

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    #15
    Yeah I'm a script kiddie yet I've been in two books, I'm in dozens of pdfs including government and the largest security companies, and I used to run the largest security forum in the world, don't get mad because I busted the truth on you as your getting pretty mad. You seem to sure think you know me or about me but you don't know anything, host outside the us? I don't have a single server outside the us, the hundreds of servers I do have are located in every us data center so you should get your facts straight and since you know something please do shed some light on things, oh and if I was really that I doubt your network would be online.

    Oh and on a side note since you run your mouth so much, I have more servers then your "data center" so does that make me own my own data center too?
     
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    cpios Peon

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    #16
    What's your location?
     
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    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    Lake Geneva, Wi. (between Chicago and Milwaukee).
     
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    Riboflavin Well-Known Member

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    #18
    It looks like you've already taken care of that by buying stock art of a datacenter that is not your own. Not trying to be a troll here but I mean how can you say you are the down to earth hosting provider that doesn't lie, and then advertise something completely different false on your site?
     
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    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #19
    The "stock art" are actually artists renderings, not pictures from other data centers.

    And since you inquired, yes, we have another dual core system similarly priced to the one that just sold:

    Dual-Core Athlon 64 6000+
    4GB DDR2 Ram
    Dual 320GB Hard Drive
    2IP addresses
    1000GB transfers
    $86.99/mo.

    No setup frees and no contracts. Additional ram, hard drive, etc., are available as well.
     
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    #20
    wat a long discussions :)
     
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