Texas fixes the death penalty laws

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  1. Bushranger

    Bushranger Notable Member

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    #21
    Agreed. Judges decide their fate based on the facts that are presented.

    That was the prosecutors argument. A prosecutor makes up a story, usually based on the evidence he has. When they have little evidence, it means the story is made-up almost entirely. It is then up to them to prove their made-up story over the defendants made-up story. Whichever made-up story wins the argument wins the case, and that's the story we hear as fact from then on. The actual truth of the story needs never be tested, until maybe after they kill him. You can bet there's 50 different stories of what really happened.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troy_Davis_case

    Don't quite agree, there's many that will be using his case to end the death penalty, hence the fickle argument of yesterday.

    FTR: He was the first story I got when I opened my eyes yesterday morning, who, at the time was getting executed any moment, and then the news people followed his case all day, leading every story for the next few hours, twitter was going crazy until finally they executed him. Meantime we're hearing he's waiting there tied in position waiting for the word. All the reporters were going on about how excruciating it was for them, let alone how Davis would have been. With all the hype of yesterday going on about ending the death penalty, when I woke up today I get that story on the 'end of last meals' instead of end of death penalty and I just had to laugh, which is why I posted/created this thread, because it really would [be] the "Republican" way of fixing things imo. :)
     
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    #22
    So? What your argument then??

    In the court stories don't matter, theories don't count, everything boils down to evidence, hard freaking evidence.

    The chain of events is based on eye-witness accounts, not one not two but 34 different eye-witnesses, some of them were his friends, some knew him while others completely strangers to him.
    Every eye-witness account was cross-examined in the court. It wasn't just a cooked up story mate..

    You may choose to believe other wise, they say denial is a powerful tool...

    Those many have just one motto in life, bring every criminal back on street.

    That's your bias against Republicans.. You jumped on conclusion assuming Republicans had anything to do with 'last meal' things..
    I never understand the political association of people.. Why do you need to paint everything with republican/democratic brush?

    Anyone being a republican, the last meal issue and the trial of Troy Davis are three completely unrelated issues.
    What do you want to achieve by mixing them together somehow is beyond me.
     
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    #23
    Though i'm really not arguing as to his guilt, that statement makes me think you don't really know how it works because hard freaking evidence isn't really hard freaking evidence. :) It's a pointer towards what we think happened and that's it. Evidence can be manipulated in many ways, and often is.

    Wikipedia says:
    Some do, some don't. I can't see Jail helps anything but until we can think of something better it's better than no punishment.

    100% agreed. Just can't forgive the neocons for fucking up the world.

    Agreed. I was having a laugh to start.
     
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    #24
    I meant to add, I followed that link Obamanation, but it was too clever for me. I don't think that much before I open my mouth, I just do it. :)
     
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    #25
    Unless the dead man walks in the court and tells the judge and jury who killed him, there will always be a margin of doubt (albeit unreasonable) in every case..
    Some people count on that margin to make every killer look like a victim. They play and people get played. Media plays a major role and makes shitload of money.

    In a trial, defendant is given a fair chance to prove his innocence, he is only given sentence when he fails to do so.

    I believe the time when a guilty has been acquitted on the basis of lack of evidence or botched up investigation even when judge and jury believed that defendant was guilty, counts way more than the possibility of a complete innocent is given a death sentence.
     
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    #26
    So to recap:

    • -- The state of Georgia executes a guy
    • -- A Democrat mentions a change in the meal policy for death row inmates in Texas
    P&R Style Responses:

    -- Bushranger
    -- Creates a thread, links to the story with the Democrat from Texas and concludes: That's the Republican way of fixing things. :)
    ------ He does not however offer citicism of Georgia
    ------ He does not however offer citicism of Democrats

    -- Spoiltdiva
    -- Follows up with a rant about racism in Texas, a state he's probably never seen, referring to the inhabitants as hillbillies.
    ------ "Hillbilly" is a racial slur used against white rural inhabitants living in the Appalachian mountain region.
    ------ The Appalachian mountains are roughly 800 - 1000 miles east of Texas.


    -- So notwithstanding the premise of the thread... neither criticizes Georgia or Democrats.

    And people think DP isn't educational?
    You can always learn to grind your favorite ax here. :)
     
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    #27
    I'm not sure they would agree.
     
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    #28
    @robjones
    You still don't get it do ya Rob? Of course I don't think that way about Texas.I was provoking you and of course being the uber uptight dude you are you went for it.But on the positive side you now have a couple of my "racist" posts that you can submit should I ever decide to post a thread.You appear to spend most of your time scheming.....not selling any houses? Ya no $$$ coming in,mortgage,truck payment,daughters education etc.Ya you're uptight...I get it.
     
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    #29
    Just to clarify, again: I didn't 'citicism' anyone nor did I criticize them, I in-fact laughed at the concept of it all.
     
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    #30
    Hmmm. Posting inflammatory material not because you believe it but solely to provoke another to respond. Perhaps there's a word to describe that behavior.
     
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    #31
    I "finally" have you figured out.Firstly I really don't think you are a bad guy.Only someone who is completely devoid of a sense of humor.More than anyone on DP it appears that Bushranger has me figured out.Yes I'm a b%#@*h but I'm a b%#@h that likes to poke fun,tease,and laugh.Some of it is deliberately spiteful but none of it is for 100% real.Without meaning to be disrespectful I consider 75% of you on here to be a joke,so I joke with the jokers.Again I say to you in earnest.........lighten up!
     
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    #32
    Yeah... that's it, I lack a sense of humor. You're an incredibly perceptive student of the human scene.

    You're also clearly a master of logic and language. Gosh I wish I were you.
     
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    #33
    Yep 80% chance Spoiltdiva is a GIRL .
     
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    #34
    Except that the online gender genie says he's a bloke for 100% of the posts I tested.
     
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    #35
    Ummm,well o.k....on the net anyone of us can be anything we want to be,I do get that.And as a mod you must have seen many deceptions by now.I have read your blogs about how so many locations listed on profiles are fake.Don't let this job erase your faith in people though.:) I know this seems like a long goodbye but I'm just answering posts where my name has been brought up or people are asking me questions.
    P.S. well it seems like I got another infraction,this makes #6 for a total point count of 8.I got 2 infractions earlier today for using foreign languages on my posts.Odd thing is that I've been doing that since June.Hmmm,wonder why it's suddenly an issue now? But seeing as I've got about 50 posts on DP with foreign languages,it shouldn't be long as I only need 2 more points and I'm outta here.
     
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    #36

    Did you mean a grammatical error? You didn't think that would slip by did you? You can't quit until these posts are perfect. LOL
     
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    Haaaa! That's embarrassing but funny.Here I am adding a p.s. to correct my English and I misspell it!:)
     
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