United States Heading towards a Depression?

They did have an interest in controlling America again, but in my opinion they were successful many years ago and the 1913 act was the last nail in the coffin for a free America. You can keep out monsters only so many times when uneducated generations pass by. When the Empire couldn't stand up to America's ragamuffin strength, they had to use their head and since the geniuses who were the founding fathers became more and more and distant memory, the safeguard against the new legal, banking, political, corporate, religious and other insidious means of infiltration crumbled. After the Declaration of Independence they just came back and tried again and again and again.

The British Empire never ended. America was a huge opportunity for assimilation. A gigantic country with incredible resources is of great use. After a while, mostly without public knowledge, the US quietly succeeded to the Empire and formed the Anglo-American Empire which is very much alive and colonising today.

The reason why people think the old Empire is no longer functional is because of the outcome of the first and second world wars. So many things changed after them, including methods of control. The second world war was a test between militaristic socialist control and intellectual 'fabian socialist' control - born in England, of course - and we all know who won and who lost. A big lesson was learned: in order to maintain an empire you have to appear to dismantle and use incremental and intellectual oppression; an invisible empire.

Hitler himself said "we must hold our noses and enter the Reichstag". His rise was most rapid between 1928 and 1933.

Typically in this modern age of convenience, globalisation, efficiency and technology, I see these methods of control being perfected further. In the wake of the far reaching economic terrorism, which is not a new tool for assimilation for the controllers, we're witnessing unification of states and abandoning of traditional sovereignty (EU, North American Union, Asian Union, African Union..), standardisation of laws and their processes and of course the centralisation and central planning of wealth, economics and currency.

America once the grand prize, now the world.

 

What's your opinion on this.

Chart 1 reveals the linear connection between the Rothschilds and the Bank of England, and the London banking houses which ultimately control the Federal Reserve Banks through their stockholdings of bank stock and their subsidiary firms in New York. The two principal Rothschild representatives in New York, J. P. Morgan Co., and Kuhn, Loeb & Co. were the firms which set up the Jekyll Island Conference at which the Federal Reserve Act was drafted, who directed the subsequent successful campaign to have the plan enacted into law by Congress, and who purchased the controlling amounts of stock in the Federal Reserve Bank of New York in 1914. These firms had their principal officers appointed to the Federal Reserve Board of Governors and the Federal Advisory Council in 1914. In 1914 a few families (blood or business related) owning controlling stock in existing banks (such as in New York City) caused those banks to purchase controlling shares in the Federal Reserve regional banks. Examination of the charts and text in the House Banking Committee Staff Report of August, 1976 and the current stockholders list of the 12 regional Federal Reserve Banks show this same family control.

Link to the chart here: http://land.netonecom.net/tlp/ref/federal_reserve.shtml

N.M. Rothschild , London - Bank of England
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| |
| J. Henry Schroder
| Banking | Corp.
| |
Brown, Shipley - Morgan Grenfell - Lazard - |
& Company & Company Brothers |
| | | |
--------------------| -------| | |
| | | | | |
Alex Brown - Brown Bros. - Lord Mantagu - Morgan et Cie -- Lazard ---|
& Son | Harriman Norman | Paris Bros |
| | / | N.Y. |
| | | | | |
| Governor, Bank | J.P. Morgan Co -- Lazard ---|
| of England / N.Y. Morgan Freres |
| 1924-1938 / Guaranty Co. Paris |
| / Morgan Stanley Co. | /
| / | \Schroder Bank
| / | Hamburg/Berlin
| / Drexel & Company /
| / Philadelphia /
| / /
| / Lord Airlie
| / /
| / M. M. Warburg Chmn J. Henry Schroder
| | Hamburg --------- marr. Virginia F. Ryan
| | | grand-daughter of Otto
| | | Kahn of Kuhn Loeb Co.
| | |
| | |
Lehman Brothers N.Y -------------- Kuhn Loeb Co. N. Y.
| | --------------------------
| | | |
| | | |
Lehman Brothers - Mont. Alabama Solomon Loeb Abraham Kuhn
| | __|______________________|_________
Lehman-Stern, New Orleans Jacob Schiff/Theresa Loeb Nina Loeb/Paul Warburg
- ------------------------- | | |
| | Mortimer Schiff James Paul Warburg
_____________|_______________/ |
| | | | |
Mayer Lehman | Emmanuel Lehman \
| | | \
Herbert Lehman Irving Lehman \
| | | \
Arthur Lehman \ Phillip Lehman John Schiff/Edith Brevoort Baker
/ | Present Chairman Lehman Bros
/ Robert Owen Lehman Kuhn Loeb - Granddaughter of
/ | George F. Baker
| / |
| / |
| / Lehman Bros Kuhn Loeb (1980)
| / |
| / Thomas Fortune Ryan
| | |
| | |
Federal Reserve Bank Of New York |
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______National City Bank N. Y. |
| | |
| National Bank of Commerce N.Y ---|
| | \
| Hanover National Bank N.Y. \
| | \
| Chase National Bank N.Y. \
| |
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Shareholders - National City Bank - N.Y. |
- ----------------------------------------- |
| /
James Stillman /
Elsie m. William Rockefeller /
Isabel m. Percy Rockefeller /
William Rockefeller Shareholders - National Bank of Commerce N. Y.
J. P. Morgan -----------------------------------------------
M.T. Pyne Equitable Life - J.P. Morgan
Percy Pyne Mutual Life - J.P. Morgan
J.W. Sterling H.P. Davison - J. P. Morgan
NY Trust/NY Edison Mary W. Harriman
Shearman & Sterling A.D. Jiullard - North British Merc. Insurance
| Jacob Schiff
| Thomas F. Ryan
| Paul Warburg
| Levi P. Morton - Guaranty Trust - J. P. Morgan
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Shareholders - First National Bank of N.Y.
- -------------------------------------------
J.P. Morgan
George F. Baker
George F. Baker Jr.
Edith Brevoort Baker
US Congress - 1946-64
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Shareholders - Hanover National Bank N.Y.
- ------------------------------------------
James Stillman
William Rockefeller
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Shareholders - Chase National Bank N.Y.
- ---------------------------------------
George F. Baker

 

That doesn't surprise me in the least. I know about the Jekyll Island set up. Those of you who aren't I strongly recommend the book "The creature from Jekyll island".

 

Now I'm not going to support the fed but even if there's 100 people who run it and profit greatly from it, do you think we (being the rest of us) would have been as succussful (if we can call it that) without them? or would we all likely be in the gutter or not even born without them?

What would life have been today without the fed doing its thing? - I'm thinking of Saddam here. As bad as he was, he held it all together it now seems. Could it be the same thing with the fed and is fighting against it only going to create more (bigger) problems?

 

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Will the USA take this route to recovery ?

 

The IRS was also founded the same year and Guggenheim, the biggest opponent of the Federal Reserve Act already in the making, died on that Titanic. Or was it the Olympic?

 

Jeez Mike, you find conspiracy in everything...

That's good though, conspiracy sells better than the sex.

 

Well, J.P. Morgan, co-founder of the Federal Reserve also owned the company which owned both the Titanic and its identical yet already damaged sister ship Olympic. He was supposed to join the maiden voyage in the last minute but pulled out. My strategy is simple: I look at who financially benefits and when there are a little too many coincidences, I tend to suspect that a cover up to protect their own interest is far from too far fetched.

 

And more often than not, he's usually correct.

 

Thank you Jeremy. Not sure what the solution is as most people prefer being told what they want to hear and then complain that the dream won't come true, but I'm tired of pretending not to know when something is hidden from us.

 

That's an interesting angel.. Do you suggest that the iceberg story is bullcrap?

It is quite hard to believe that sinking of titanic was intentional..

Although it sounds more plausible than 9/11 conspiracy theories..
If what is mike suggesting correct then it involves a shitload of cover up from government and private investigators alike..

 

Webby, watch this:

[video=google;-4217457994226676654]http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4217457994226676654&hl=en[/video]

More here: Presidential Secrets w/ Chip Tatum

 

Yes, I do. Of course, that would mean Captain Eric Smith and the captain of The Californian being in on it, but do you believe that the bankers of the world would have enough money to pay those guys off?

 

And let me say it like this: Why wouldn't the bankers protect their assets considering how stupid people are. The last election has proven that people are literally asleep. If it wasn't the bankers currently controlling the financial markets of the world, it would be some new people doing the exact same thing.

 

When the submarine went down to film the ship, you can clearly see the "MP" from "OLYMPIC":

Watch this one at 10:00 in:

[video=youtube;B0ybLmJURYU]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B0ybLmJURYU&feature=related[/video]

[video=youtube;l22oMFERNNo]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l22oMFERNNo&feature=related[/video]

 

The document 'The Tatum Chronicles' has been deleted
The document 'Nixon's Darkest Secret' has been deleted

Is there anywhere apart from conspiracy sites where we can find out about this Tatum guy? Something that says he's a real person. First four pages of Google is all conspiracy & the only thing on wikipedia is a link to a conspiracy site. Nothing I can see on the reality of his existence, let alone his murky end.

 

Saw that before on your blog.. This is something.. specially his disappearance and supposed death (Murder)

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I gotta dig into it again, with a new perspective.. you gave me material for quite a long reading..

Certainly.. I can't disagree with you here.. Banking institutions are leeching world economy for quite a long time now..
And people are gullible, they always will be.. It doesn't really surprise me when people still willingly buy the shit Bernanke is selling..

 

The video is being presented by Ted Gunderson whose life has been well documented and who had numerous television appearances. I will see what I can find out about Chip.

 

I gotta dig into it again, with a new perspective.. you gave me material for quite a long reading..



Certainly.. I can't disagree with you here.. Banking institutions are leeching world economy for quite a long time now..
And people are gullible, they always will be.. It doesn't really surprise me when people still willingly buy the shit Bernanke is selling..[/QUOTE]

Bernanke is just a spokesperson. The real owners don't make their hands dirty

 

Lets say Bernanke is the salesman, Obama is the spokesperson..