Texas fixes the death penalty laws

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  1. #1
    After all the outrage yesterday I had to laugh reading this after yesterday's call that something needed to be done to fix that disgusting death penalty.

    That's the Republican way of fixing things. :)

    http://www.abc.net.au/news/2011-09-23/texas-kills-last-meals-request/2913038
     
    Bushranger, Sep 22, 2011 IP
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    Rebecca Prominent Member

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    #2
    From your article:

    Whitmire is a Democrat.
     
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    Bushranger Notable Member

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    Sorry to confuse, wasn't blaming the Republicans, the context I meant was "that's the way A right-winger (mostly Republicans) would fix things". I had no idea who Whitmire was. Though like here, the far-right ideals seems a disease infiltrating all politicians these days.

    I might have said 'the right-wing' though I notice even the people one would normally consider lefties support this move further down.

     
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    browntwn Illustrious Member

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    Everyone but you seems to acknowledge that a "last meal" was a joke. To conservatives it a waste and served no purpose. To liberals it was a mockery of the death penalty to think a last meal was some solace before having your life taken.

    Can you explain why you seem to have an issue with it?
     
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    Bushranger Notable Member

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    Umm, well actually I don't, I was referring to the uproar after yesterday, people (Americans) wanting something done about the death penalty. Well something got done - can you re-read my very first line? - I had to LAUGH when I read it. Kind of like the fixing drink driving problems by raising the drink-driving limit cartoon that I posted a while ago. It was a funny (albeit non-sensical) response was all I was saying / sarcastically.

    And before you say otherwise: I am against the death-penalty in all but the extreme cases. I do think there are 'some' that need it. I don't think that bloke yesterday deserved it.
     
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    Keeping people alive is worse punishment than dealth, dealth in a way is like being set free.
     
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    Wanting something done about death penalty, and abolishing last meal in Texas are two different unrelated things, trying to mix them together is kind of malice.

    You think that bloke executed on Wednesday did not deserve death penalty?

    Dragging a human behind the truck? You think there can be something more gruesome and heinous than that? Or are you talking about Georgia execution?
     
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    Not him, he definately deserved it. The other guy, "too much doubt", Davis.
     
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    To succeed politically in Texas one has to appeal to the unenlightened great unwashed.Texas has an abundance of these.The Texas "culture" is of a redneck reactionary variety.Texas was the last state to give up it's slaves.They fought under General Johnson even after Lee surrendered at Appamatix.If you're looking for backward hillbillies who hate just about everyone who isn't white or who or speaks with a Hispanic accent,go to Texas.It's racist central.
    This new last meal law was just to get votes,who gives a damn about the morality of it either way when vote getting is the object?
     
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    The 'too much smoke and mirrors' doubts?

     
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    If you have any idea how the law works then you might know that's (his guilt) certainly not a given. You're put up against the machine and sometimes the machine is out to get ya. But even if he was guilty, why would he get 20 years then death, going through the process 2 times already, then eventually killed when I see some triple murderer got 9 years today. What's the difference? The bloke he killed was a copper (which is mandatory death) but he was working his second job, as a security guard from what I read so his first job shouldn't have come into play imho.
     
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    What is your point of argument?

    Are you arguing that there wasn't enough evidence to prove him guilty?

    Or

    That his guilt was not severe enough to earn the capital punishment?

    Or

    Both?
     
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    I'm arguing the severity of the punishment.
     
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    Now there your point of view and my point of view vary..

    You clearly said that you are against all death penalty except for few extreme cases.. I'm not gonna argue that, because that is your opinion.
    Although, I'd like to know what do you think is extreme?

    In my opinion, I don't have a problem with putting a murderer to death if his guilt is proven beyond every reasonable doubt.
    Although it is up to the court to decide what guilt constitutes of what punishment. I'm happy to leave it that way.
     
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    Extreme, imo, being callous disregard for life such as the dragging behind a ute, Ed Gein type of outlook on life...kill em all.

    Robbing a factory, being caught in the act and shooting at someone, even running the risk of killing them. 10 years would suffice imo.
     
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    Parts of an argument
    Its been amusing to watch a thread evolve from an ad hom on Republicans to an ad hom on Texans to a factless whine(not even a claim) about the death penalty, all within a few posts. Perhaps the goal of the thread was to look ridiculous. As the great George W. Bush(Texan) would say, Mission Accomplished!!!
     
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    And I thought you were being serious until I read that bit. :)
     
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    Isn't that how law works even today? Court decides whether the crime falls into 'rarest of the rare' category. Plenty of murderers are given life sentence instead of death.


    Davis shoots the guy one time wounding him. Walks to him and shoots again ensuring that he is dead.
    It wasn't a non-intentional killing while trying to flee. It was a cold blooded murder.

    With his execution Justice is served. Good riddance.
    No one is going to miss him now when he is gone.The society is a better place without him.
     
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    So said a jury of his peers, the same type of jury that emancipated Casey Anthony. Seriously, this story doesn't even merit a re-write. A few lefty media outlets have latched onto it and keep repeating it like they know better. There was a particular media outlet that was craving blood when Casey Anthony was the accused. Perhaps we should let media outlets try these people and put our antiquated jury system out of business.
     
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    +1 for that.. Lets make Citizen Verdict a reality!!
     
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