Negative $4000 Buyer dispute on pickup order Please help ASAP :'( USA

Discussion in 'PayPal' started by bksub1, Sep 19, 2011.

  1. #1
    Long story short.
    Im a new power seller on ebay with a 100 feedback.
    I buy broken iPhones MacBooks and etc and repair them then resell.

    Recently I had a buyer bought a few items from me.. He won bid and paid.
    Later he realized he was 30 miles away from me and he say he can pick it up and save on shipping.

    Buyer picked it up, got home and disputed.

    Basically Im a college student and do this as a job but currently I'm freaking out.
    NEGATIVE 4000 BALANCE + 600 balance that was paypal balance lost.
    Now heres the thing,I use a PO box for shipping and receiving packages and have the address and "Order Fulfillment center (FIRSTNAME HERE)"

    Now whats the worse that can happen?
    Can paypal get money out of my bank account? Im in USA.



    PLease help ASAP :(
    Thanks
     
    bksub1, Sep 19, 2011 IP
  2. gandelf(lordoftherings)

    gandelf(lordoftherings) Active Member

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    #2
    look dude calculate the weight of the iphones and the laptops which you sold to him
    and get a box and put in it some iron garbage or coins or any thing heavy just be sure they have the same weight
    and send this box to the buyer and send the tracking number for the paypal
     
    gandelf(lordoftherings), Sep 19, 2011 IP
  3. bksub1

    bksub1 Peon

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    I'm saying he already won dispute. and apparently paypal just says I have no proof he picked up package.

    Dispute was in his favor and I'm out that money, if I ship now paypal will see it was shipped after dispute was closed :(
     
    bksub1, Sep 19, 2011 IP
  4. SAGILIO

    SAGILIO Member

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    #4
    since u r in usa contact local paypal office ,
    or contact the buyer who actually picked up the package
    then talk with them physicaly not by phone or by net ,if not resolved

    go small causes court and file a claim case with all proof
    and remember u must party the buyer as a first and add paypal as a second party (proforma defendant)

    If the buyer really picked up the package from you and u have proof then dont worry U will win the case and according your negative balance will be adjusted .
    thanks
     
    SAGILIO, Sep 19, 2011 IP
  5. nihangshah

    nihangshah Prominent Member

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    #5
    Call PayPal via Skype and explain them the problem. The number to call: +18882211161

    BTW, why didn't use eBay for selling physical items?
     
    nihangshah, Sep 19, 2011 IP
  6. SAGILIO

    SAGILIO Member

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    making call will not help him
    its useless one kind off
     
    SAGILIO, Sep 19, 2011 IP
  7. nihangshah

    nihangshah Prominent Member

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    Agreed. But, I don't think PayPal can remove money from his bank account.
     
    nihangshah, Sep 19, 2011 IP
  8. SAGILIO

    SAGILIO Member

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    yes they will because he is usa resident
    paypal also send collection agent to his home
    so its better talk with them personally not by phone
     
    SAGILIO, Sep 19, 2011 IP
  9. bksub1

    bksub1 Peon

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    #9
    collection agent isn't a issue in my option.
    They have a my nickname...

    and a common last name + i used a PO box for shipping since I didn't wanna get everything coming to my dorm...

    So if they go off the info on my paypal account I'm fine.
    2. reverse from bank? What if i close the bank.

    Also the item WAS won off ebay, but better picked up.

    All I have is his number, which isn't any proof of pickup.

    Right now what I'm trying to see is if I'm safe.
    Can they pull from my bank? WHat if I close my bank can they track me down?
    Debt collector will go with paypal info which is a po box and a old one actually so Im fine :/ as long as they don't get info using my bank info.

    Only concern is them finding me based off of contacting bank.
    Bank close + pp details they can't track am i safe?
     
    bksub1, Sep 19, 2011 IP
  10. bksub1

    bksub1 Peon

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    Also spent long hours on phone with paypal. there no use :(
     
    bksub1, Sep 19, 2011 IP
  11. creztor

    creztor Well-Known Member

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    #11
    Since you are in the USA, they will send debt collectors after you.
    Do whatever you can to resolve the matter.
    You can also get small claims courts involved, since you are both in the USA and he is nearby.
    Perhaps paying a lawyer to write up and post a letter to him may help the process along.
     
    creztor, Sep 19, 2011 IP
  12. gandelf(lordoftherings)

    gandelf(lordoftherings) Active Member

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    I don't know about USA
    but if you already withdrawed the 4000$
    you can close the bank account
    and just leave the paypal account -ve
    no problem
     
    gandelf(lordoftherings), Sep 21, 2011 IP
  13. Winster

    Winster Peon

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    Yeah, the law option here is the best bet. Have a scary letter written to him, he will probably comply after he realizes you are serious.
     
    Winster, Sep 21, 2011 IP
  14. browntwn

    browntwn Illustrious Member

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    #14
    Since you bought and then repaired the items in question that you sold him, did you bother to note the serial numbers or other information that would identify them? Do you have proof of your purchases?

    You could contact the police. You could report those items stolen. You could contact apple and find out how to report stolen laptop or iphone.

    It seems you are looking to scam paypal, but what you should be doing is finding ways to get your stuff back. Since he never paid for it, it is still yours so go get it and involve the police if necessary. Presumably, you can prove you bought it and he will have no proof of payment to you (other than the paypal he reversed). It seems like you could easily prove these are still yours and not his.
     
    browntwn, Sep 21, 2011 IP
  15. toybreastcom

    toybreastcom Greenhorn

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    Yeah, just call the cops, and say your stuff was stolen because it was...

    He lives close to u, just do the local law method

    Just gotta prove it, and then its done dang do
     
    toybreastcom, Sep 21, 2011 IP
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    gonowqa Peon

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    I am selling guns.. If you want one just send me a PM.
     
    gonowqa, Sep 22, 2011 IP
  17. Reliableweb

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    Best go to your bank and the local police
     
    Reliableweb, Sep 23, 2011 IP