United States Heading towards a Depression?

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  1. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    Translation: We can afford to trade chicken for votes everywhere!
     
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    BRUm Well-Known Member

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    You're wrong in thinking I came here to attack Perry. It was something I learned of recently so thought I'd bring it to the table. I'm sure he has done many other wrong things, but the HPV situation is something that personally resonates with me.

    I'm no liberal who attacks party aligned puppets for the sake of bettering my own party's image - like Breeze.

    Obamanation, while he has admitted his mistake, how convenient is it that it's at the time he's running for president?
     
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    Rebecca Prominent Member

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    Ron Paul talking about Perry...

    [video=youtube;ZzKZH7Uip48]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZzKZH7Uip48[/video]
     
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    Another initiative by the Administration to bring fiscal reform to the budgetary process in a manner consistent with a healthy economy and the necessary restraint caused by the previous recession.
     
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  5. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    Correct me if I am wrong, but does that not say "Senate"? Aren't you the one purporting the Republican Senate (and Congress as a whole) as being responsible for and deserved of a pitiful approval rating?

    So which Congress is this exactly that is both the savior of the administration's ideological mission and more pathetic in terms of approval than the leader of that administration?

    I blame the Tea Party ...
     
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    Rebecca Prominent Member

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    Here's a Ron Paul commercial. It's comparing Ron Paul with Romney and Perry. It says we need a man of integrity, not a schill for the bankers...

    Ron Paul against the "Pretty Boys" (Romney+Perry)


    [video=youtube;DpbP_vUMxog]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DpbP_vUMxog[/video]
     
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  7. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    So says the career politician...
     
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    Here's a new one I just heard on Dylan Ratigan on MSNBC. Did anyone else know that in 2009, Obama had the Fed "loan" money to European banks???? WHAT THE FUCK!

    And the corruption in Greece looks like it's reached a fever pitch. They are going to default on their debt. I expect corrupt Greek politicians to shovel money into Obama's offshore bank account to entice him to bail out Greece.

    I've done business with Greek businesspersons. Ever time I got off the phone with them I had to take another shower. They lie like a rug and have absolutely no scruples..

    I think Greece should be allowed to go bust. Maybe another country will swallow them up.

    BTW, Ron Paul is the only candidate that is serious about fixing the banks. No one else is talking about bank reserves, and those credit default swaps that are still traded in the dark.
     
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    Republican Senate (and Congress as a whole) as being responsible for and deserved of a pitiful approval rating?


    This Summers transgressions of the Tea Party Congress that culminated in the S&P (political) downgrade of the Nations Credit Rating as the reason for the "pitiful approval rating" for congress.

    Mia, sober up - it is a Democratic Senate.

    The Democratic Senate that also has 14 months to distance themselves from the reactionary influences of the Tea Party Republicans both House and Senate.

    There is plenty of time for the Administration to continue working for the welfare of all Americans than the Tea Party - Republican selectivity and irrational support for select groups that are not contributing to the Nations Economic Recovery.
     
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  10. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    The world according to Breeze.

    When Senate (and Congress as a whole) do something positive, it's the current administrations doing.
    When they do something negative, it's the Republican's (Tea Parties) fault.

    As to "selective groups", there's only ever been one party that divided the individual into groups. They use that division to incite violence and class warfare.
     
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    Corwin, I knew that the Fed. was financing banks across the world because I heard it on Alex Jones' show. He played a clip where Bernanke was asked who the foreign banks were that received the money and specifically why an Australian bank received millions. In his usual elitist way he basically replied "I cannot tell you".

    Greece will go bust. The Germans will not bail them out again. They're the first EU state to show signs of getting pissed off with it all. Let's hope that when this collapse they follow Iceland's lead.

    Mia, why is Paul a career politician? Are you saying no-one else is? How can the ONLY man (and maybe Bob Barr and one other) in US politics addressing these particularly important issues be in this for just his career? A couple of you have gone a bit crazy today :D

    No matter how you try to spin it, Paul has the cleanest voting record around: http://www.ontheissues.org/tx/ron_paul.htm Dr. No is Dr. Win!
     
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    If you find that article again, it would be interesting to read. Here's something (but it's from last June) about a IMF bailout...

     
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    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    I say that cause Paul has spent most of his life (like the majority of politicians) in a position with which he could illustrate or action change, yet has not.
    Now he, like the rest wants us to believe he will now do all this as president? I just do not buy it. Especially from a guy that simply votes NO on everything.

    Couple that with his hippie radical Nader meets Timothy Leary attitude to things like self defense.
     
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    I haven't heard of that. Afaik we were 'strong & secure' because our 'banks were regulated in the late 80s'. Well that's what we were told and the government then guaranteed any losses up to a million (if they were to go broke) which has changed just yesterday to $250,000. Are you sure it wasn't Aussie banks doing the lending?
     
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    Mia, conservatism is all about being sensible. You criticise liberals all day because they interfere too much, now you complain that Paul chooses not to spend your tax money? Give me an example of a change Paul could have acted upon and chose not to. You realise that he's one man fighting against dozens of other congressmen, right? How can he pass legislation when everyone else opposes him?

    Bush, I'm sure I remember correctly. The fed dished out tonnes of money to all sorts of shady banks and corporations around the world. I'll have a dig for the clip or any articles.
     
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    The national bank of Australia is privately owned just like the Federal Reserve in the U.S. of A.
     
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    Absolutely agree, however the National bank is just a name and has no power over our money. It's a bank same as any other. The Commonnwealth bank was government owned but even that I think is now private. Again, that doesn't handle our monetary policy.

    We have the Reserve bank which sets our monetary policies/interest rates etc., that is the one that can be compared to the fed but afaik that is government owned though a separate entity.
     
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    The institution which has the power of the issuence of money is where the power lies.

    After signing Fed. Reserve Act of 1913:

    There are only so many people that you can so many times claim to be "tinfoil hat wearers"...
     
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    Did anyone else know that in 2009, Obama had the Fed "loan" money to European banks????

    It was well known the Federal Reserve lent to European Banks, it just was not known to which the loans were made.

    The 07-09 Recession was then and is still today a world event - it only makes sense the Federal Reserve being a lender of last resort would make funds available to any institutions that would have a negative affect on the American economy if they were to become insolvent.

    Corwin, these were all loans and were paid back, the crisis (then) was alleviated......three cheers for the Administration.
     
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    Where are your citations Breeze? Show us multiple reliable sources which prove "all these loans" were paid back.
     
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