United States Heading towards a Depression?

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  1. The Webby

    The Webby Peon

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    #7321
    No of course not.
    I'm not sure who left it, a couple of names pop up in mind, but meh, I'm so riddled with greys that who cares..

    Jon Huntsman? Honestly, I don't know much about him but I heard he did a terrific job while Governing Utah.
     
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    #7322

    Its at a point right now....


    The R's have found themselves a year to early.

    With 14 months remaining till the 2012 elections the Administration has more than enough resources to match anything the R candidates have to offer and will soon have a recovering economy as a backdrop to reelection.
     
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  3. Obamanation

    Obamanation Well-Known Member

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    #7323
    The guy speaks in platitudes, just like Bachman. People who talk in platitudes either a) have no ideas of their own, or b) are too chicken sh*t to present their ideas. When asked in the last debate what he would do about the trade deficit, he implied there was nothing wrong with our trade arrangement with China. He said the problem stemmed from the fact we are weak and that we need to "beef up" our manufacturing. He said he would love to represent the US to china by speaking to them in Chinese. Perhaps he thought Chinese language skills were a plus on his resume, but from all appearances, the guy is a whore who will go down on anyone with a $20 bill. He defines the term RINO, and I'm not talking about liberal stance on social issues. You don't get a cushy ambassadorship to China from the highly partisan Barrack Obama without some serious ass sucking and support. You can't kick Bo-Bo out of office by running his twin brother against him.
     
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    #7324
    I read the other day (Huffington I think) Perry has blood on his hands because he ordered the death of an innocent man on death row. Does that matter to anyone?

    PS: Wasn't me, I only left you one, tried to be green but would have been grey. Since I learnt to go do it in another thread it keeps telling me I gotta spread some more around to give you rep again.
     
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  5. Obamanation

    Obamanation Well-Known Member

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    #7325
    It seems you are unfamiliar with how the US legal system works. Here in this country, Governors do not have the right to "order the death" of people. Most people would classify that little factoid in the "well duh" category.
     
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    #7326
    I guess seeing the Huffington Post is American they would know how your justice system works, though I don't know its allegiences or whether they're pushing for a headline.

    The first story I read talks about a recent debate.

    Source

    The "click here" leads to a 6 page story explaining why Perry's to blame.

    Source
     
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  7. The Webby

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    #7327
    I know it wasn't you either mate..
     
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    #7328
    Hmm. Skim read the article and couldn't find the part where Perry is to blame. Perhaps you can quote it for me?

    A little more information for you on our justice system: When a person is accused of a crime, he/she stands trial before a jury of his/her peers. In the case of a capital murder case, the jury must decide that the person is guilty beyond a reasonable doubt before the judge hands down the sentence. You might want to note that the governor is not involved in the process. If some pundit or scientist feels the verdict may have been incorrect, hell, if the real murderer comes out after the fact and presents undeniable proof that the person executed by the state was, in fact, innocent, the governor would still not have sent an innocent man to die. That would be the jury of his peers, and the judge.
     
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    #7329
    I do agree it is very hard to follow over the six pages as the story jumps backwards and forwards, but the story itself was interesting to me. The link (from twitter) the other day had the option to read it all on one page, I can't see that option today.

     
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    #7330
    He already has blood on his hands from passing executive orders "forcing" young women to have HPV shots. Interesting how he now "repents"...
     
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    How does that convert to blood on his hands, did anyone die from that? We had it put into law too and all girls were vaccinated. They didn't 'force' it though it was voluntary, though likely they were pushed to do so, as they do with all vaccinations.
    Not that i'm agreeing with it but if you're gonna try get rid of a virus you do need to do everyone to do it properly. FTR: I was worried about my kids jabs (polio & stuff they all get the 1st year) at the time but went along with it for that reason.
    Mind you, I think the hpv thing here was more about giving funding to the Australian of the year who invented it (forgot his name), to ensure he could keep working on his cancer research, rather than the wiping out of genital warts they said it was intended for.
     
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    #7332
    Yes, a surprising number of girls died from the vaccine. The same thing happened here too. It was hailed as the cure for cervical cancer, which is a dangerous claim. I don't think cancer is as simple as being receptive to a vaccine.
     
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    #7333
    Uhhh... Unlike ObamaCare, there was a simple opt-out procedure for the vaccination program.

    The reason the vaccine was labeled "mandatory" is that insurance companies don't usually cover elective vaccines.

    Perry's admitted he made an error. I wish Obama would finally admit that his entire economic policy has been one big error.
     
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    #7334
    Not sure, maybe the great nation might fall this time.
     
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    Well that's ok then. As long as he admits he made a mistake then the dead and disabled girls weren't affected in vain...

    It doesn't matter why they were labelled mandatory. I know you could opt out, but the women and their families didn't, that's the point. He is guilty by implication. Being in a such a position of influence you don't do such stupid things.

    It's obviously some sort of insidious global initiative, else why would the Aussie's have it forced on them? Here it wasn't as bad, but the propaganda for it made you feel an idiot if you don't go down to your local surgery and get some multiple booster jabs full of shit knows what. Not one person who got them were once told the ingredients. Sure, it's partially their fault for being ignorant and blindly trusting "authority" figures, but how can a population that takes so much time inspecting food packets for ingredients not give vaccines the same thought? Someone offers to put something in your body, you ask what's in it, right? It's appalling how establishments treat people as children and chattel.
     
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  16. The Webby

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    #7336
    I gotta listen to him talking.. I read about him a bit.. didn't give much clue though.. Got anything interesting to read?
     
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    #7337
    Blahahaha... Even Thomas Jefferson made mistakes.
     
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    #7338
    Did he imply young women had to take a potentially dangerous vaccine without fully offering an education regarding it?

    Hounding Aaron Burr, for example, doesn't really compare to endangering the innocent public.

    Comparing Perry and Jefferson? You're mad. Why are you so defensive of Perry? He's a flip-flopping traitor like the most of them.

    Facepalm if you like him just because he claims to be a Republican.
     
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    #7339
    If you're going to attack Perry, at least search a bit to find something better to attack him with. I mean seriously, the guy has been governor of one of the largest states in the U.S. since you were like 10. In all those years, he has to have screwed up more than this. You're resorting to things that Perry might have implied? Hit the books! Find something he really did!

    Here's an example: Tony Rezko arranged for Barack Obama to get a $300,000 USD discount on the purchase of his Chicago home. Tony went to prison and Barry went to the White House. Total political damage: zero.

    Let's set that as a floor. Try to find something with more meat than that on Perry. You have until 6 November, 2012.
     
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    That sounds a bit too generalist for my liking. Jefferson was a slave owner (Ever see the series "The Jeffersons" and wonder where they got their name?). We all forgive him for that, don't we?

    I'm with you on the HPV shots. It was a bad idea and the guy admitted he handled it wrong. That type of admission actually gives him points in my book, because it takes courage to admit it. I personally don't know enough about Perry yet to say I'd rather have him than one of the others, but I'm hard pressed to see this HPV thing as fatally, or even severely flawed. Just my 2 cents.
     
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