I've seen plenty of people around here whose behavior was beyond the pale and who were not worthy of participating in any kind of chat. It is not fair to everyone else that their belligerence or threats of violence ruin the fun for all.
The problem with GWorld in particular is that he is not really interested in a debate. Those types of slurs are really just meant to troll and name call. GWorld has legitimately contributed to the conversation in the past, posting excerpts from the communist manifesto, and taking legitimate positions on issues, misguided though they may be . Genuine contributions from GWorld are, however, few and far between. I'm hard pressed to see how GWorld asking Mia over and over if he is still offering free blowjobs to Muslims, or GWorld hammering away on Apoc's nationality contributes anything to the conversation. That type of idiocy takes no position, presents no facts, has no counter argument, and does not merit a response. Its like some idiotic annoying grade school kid trying to call another freckle face or four eyes. It is EXACTLY what the rules were written for. Its guys like IsraeL, with his constant arguments that the Jews are evil, that I do not think the report button was created for. He's the guy you get to enjoy humiliating over and over again in public with your debate skills.
Diva - Basically it's entertaining as hell to see him get the reality checks. He's one of those talented souls who can brighten any room by the mere act of leaving, so I'd be remiss if I didn't aid in making his bouts of self destruction reach their natural conclusion in a timely fashion. Your decision to use or not use the report button is your choice... but I've managed fine making my own decisions. He's on a roll, so I'd bet he's got under 48 hours before his name goes red again. When it happens... I'll just smile and wave.
Back on topic, did anyone manage to find a map predating 830bc when the Jews owned all the land around Jerusalem? If not, I was thinking a good angle for the Israelis would be to agree to pre-1967 borders. They should go for 830bc borders. I was also trying to place the Arabs on this map in or around Jerusalem. Maybe I need a magnifying glass.
What's the chances of this new terror plot ( 2/3 Americans BTW ) is simply a qe4 distraction? Would the anniversary itself have taken away the spotlight from the $400bn extra they're printing anyway? What's more important to you? 3 terrorists 'plotting' or $400bn?
My wife raised that "wag the dog" scenario this morning. It's been done before. Honest answer, I'd say chances are 50:50.
Then you're more trusting than I am. The current administration is on record trying to justify incremental bites at the 2nd amendment by saying that our "lax" gun control was causing weapons from our country to fall into the hands of drug lords south of the border. After their claims were proven to be grossly exaggerated... The ATF at the behest of the Justice Dept literally interceded with gun dealers telling them to allow large quantity straw buyer purchases that were against the law to proceed, supposedly as a part of a sting operation aimed at finding the big fish on the other end of the transaction. When gun dealers objected, fearing this would do exactly what had been claimed and they'd end up headed to Mexico, they were given written assurances this would not happen, it was all under control. ATF men in the field who had fears on similar grounds objected to telling gun dealers to ignore the very rules the ATF is there to enforce. These men were told they didn't understand the big picture, and they were to shut up and do as they were told. Of course, the end result was that several thousand guns that would not have been sold had the gun dealers been allowed to adhere to the laws in place ended up south of the border, and two law enforcement guys on the border got killed with weapons that shouldnt have been there and wouldn't have been were it not for our brilliant Justice Dept. *THAT* is when some guys in the ATF risked their careers and blew the whistle on the operation. The administration went into coverup mode and suddenly knew nothing about "Operation Fast and Furious"... Notwithstanding the fact that there are witnesses that said they briefed NSA advisors AT the White House, and the operation appears to have been announced though not by name by a high ranking administration official on tape at a meeting with Mexican officials. So basically, our current administration appears to have taken deliberate action to make their own previously disproven claims become fact, and is now hiding from any involvement despite evidence it came from way up high and people in the White House were in the loop. So Do I think they'd lie thru their teeth if it was in their best interest? Sure. Wouldn't be the first time. That said, I see the 10 year anniversary of 9/11 as a tempting target for The jihadists, who have had a pretty bad year or two. It'd be a great feather in the cap for someone that wants to be the next de facto big guy of the jihadist movement if he could score a big hit on the anniversary. As such, I see it as a possibility there's credible evidence of a plot, and just as much chance it's our administration creating a diversion from an unpopular economy by manufacturing an imaginary dragon to slay. I give it 50:50.
Although I have not bothered with reporting anyone from P&R so far, I reported multiple spammers and count runners. I don't see a problem in reporting someone when s/he is intentionally breaking a rule. I'd like to add, that although I have a great dislike for ApocalypseXL for his anti Indian rants and continuous 'Helvetti' remarks, I believe attacking his nationality as a retort is a cheap blow... Attacking anyone's nationality is a low blow. An argument should be free from personal insults and cheap remarks. If anyone can't think of anything else but name calling as retort, it's a clear sign that they have lost the argument anyway.
What offices where at Building 7 ? One of them Office of Emergency Management, and its emergency command center on the 23rd floor. This floor received 15 million dollars worth of renovations, including independent and secure air and water supplies, and bullet and bomb resistant windows designed to withstand 200 MPH winds. source
Here you can see exactly how confused they were at the time: http://www.archive.org/details/bbc200109110834-0916 As the second plane goes in they're thinking that was the first plane. 10 minutes later they get reports 'there's a second plane crash' even though they watched it go in earlier.... quite obviously they're very confused and I don't think the newsreader still knows what's up by the end of the video.
I have a dog with jaws like a vice that I've clocked running at speeds in excess of 28mph. That doesn't tell me anything about how good he is at climbing trees. The data you posted might be pertinent if the problem was that the windows failed to withstand bullets, bombs, or 200 mph winds.
If the 23rd floor was a solid block of titanium and the others went down, it'd go too. It's that whole "gravity" thing.
Read this in detail :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Trade_Center#Destruction Everything was destroyed . The tallest buildings collapsed simply because they could not be cool down by the firemen . Only tower 7 sustained enough secondary damage for the structure to collapse . @pooptalk , SP & gstring . I don't have enough time to feed you little troll so you'd have to share this faceplam . It's enough to go around :
from your link: "3 World Trade Center, a Marriott hotel, was destroyed during the collapse of the two towers. The three remaining buildings in the WTC plaza sustained heavy damage from debris and were ultimately demolished." source - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Trade_Center#Destruction
Do you really believe that there can ever be an independent investigation into a matter the Federal Reserve owners may take personal interest in?
Aren't they the same breed ? Like Nadia when she first won the Olympics in gymnastics. Now looks like a hooker.