Tea Party Movement - What do you think of it?

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  1. Breeze Wood

    Breeze Wood Peon

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    #61
    Plagiarism is stealing Corwin. Forums are meant for your own input, not stealing from others.

     
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  2. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #62
    Did you seriously post a link to DMCA?

    Holy shit, I think I just wet myself...
     
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  3. Corwin

    Corwin Well-Known Member

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    #63
    You mean, the Democrats that are the party responsible for the Democratic Depression?
     
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  4. Breeze Wood

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    #64
    Not that I am aware of - What is DMCA?
     
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  5. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #65
    Looks like the cheesy ad system that like to inject links did it for you...
     
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  6. Breeze Wood

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    #66
    Actually, that is what I have been saying - there is plenty of blame to go around. Why is the Tea Party movement exclusively a Republican representation - they have been betrayed by their leadership or they were "only" Republican all along, nothing new.
     
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    #67
    Were you implying Bachman's comment regarding that last cyclone being God's revenge on America wasn't a religious nutcase comment?
     
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    #68
    I didn't make specific cases about anyone, I said if it's a test it should be applied equally to any party.
     
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    Spoiltdiva Acclaimed Member

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    #69
    O.K. did you crap in your pants or merely wet them?......please explain yourself.
     
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  10. Corwin

    Corwin Well-Known Member

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    #70
    50% of Tea Party sympathizers identify themselves as "non-Republican" It's not exclusively a Republican representation. The Tea Party is a movement of people with no party affiliation and threatens the existing system.

    The Republican Party is attempting to squat on the Tea Party with phonies like Michelle Bachman. To see how the Tea Party is rejecting Republican politics, look at the Tea Party protests of Romney at a New Hampshire rally, decrying Romney as a phony.

    And the Democrat Haters are scared shitless of the Tea Party.

    Ron Paul is the real deal for the Tea Party.
     
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    Obamanation Well-Known Member

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    Call it Community Organizing for the middle class. Its a bit like herding cats without a named leader getting them all to keep time to the same music, but they are definitely all singing the same song, and lack of a single figure head makes them that much harder to target and perhaps that much more dangerous. The media likes to paint Bachman like the lunatic she very well may be and say, "Look, those tea partiers are all lunatics", but one only has to look at the floor of congress to understand the Tea Party is driving the conversation, and to that end, Bachman lends her voice nicely(when she isn't busy collecting her farm subsidies or promoting herself). Palin does an outstanding job on that front as well. After digging through her email as a governor, she came out squeaky clean, leaving them only ad-hom attacks about her intelligence or the way she talks.

    In my opinion, the tea party doesn't need to produce a leader, People who desire leadership positions will present themselves from both parties as they always have. The tea party will simply have a large contribution in driving the conversation and values by which these people are measured.

    To that end, I agree Ron Paul speaks very well to those values, and his son Rand perhaps even more so. I look at the freshman class of Republican leadership, and I see some very serious people in there who don't just evade questions like Bachman, but instead provide intelligent well thought out answers. Guys like Gov. Chris Christie and Rep. Alan West. If you have the time, you ought to see him at his most recent town hall in Florida.

    [video=youtube;V8fXBHtnZFI]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8fXBHtnZFI[/video]


    You can find the whole thing here.
     
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    #72

    It's not exclusively a Republican representation.

    There representation in Congress is exclusively Republican - They follow a purely post Bush Administration script with no cognitive recognition for the conditions inherited by the Obama Administration and the necessity for curtailing the Republican Recession.

    Their leadership is what has led them to the obelisk not the reality of fundamental economic conditions. And more importantly their doubtless support of the Immoral Iraqi War that only makes themselves responsible for the conditions they are themselves responsible for.
     
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    #73
    Tea Party - Republicans - Same players same shit.
     
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  14. Mia

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    #74
    I know very few republicans that are members of the tea party. Most tea partiers I know are disenfranchised or pissed over members of every party, primarily democrats and independents... Ironic, don't ya think?
     
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    #75
    I recently came to watch youtube interviews with some of their members. Participant of demonstrations as well. What stood out to me was how horribly uneducated they were. Both their politicians and their followers.

    I do get peoples frustration with the current economic situation. But to claim that global warming is just a hoax brought to the public by corrupted scientist´s data and claiming it all to be a lie... while the ice at both poles keeps melting and the dramatic climates in wheater are all upon us already? Hello?
     
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    #76
    Hello? Man-made Global Warming is a hoax.

    Look, the Earth is not a stagnant swamp. It gets hotter and colder. Ice at both poles accumulates, or melts, but it never stays the same, right? The entire Global Warming swindle was created out of thin air to create a market for buying and selling carbon credits. This market has made Al Gore untold millions of dollars.

    I'm sure if a republican made up this scheme people would be screaming bloody murder, but if Gore and Pelosi amass tremendous fortunes this way, it's acceptable to people that don't understand the science.
     
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  17. Mia

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    #77
    Er , the "hoax" thing and the scientist that fudged the data is a fact. It's not a claim.

    From the "Wall Street Journal" http://online.wsj.com/article/SB125883405294859215.html

    A partial review of the emails shows that in many cases, climate scientists revealed that their own research wasn’t always conclusive. In others, they discussed ways to paper over differences among themselves in order to present a “unified” view on climate change. On at least one occasion, climate scientists were asked to “beef up” conclusions about climate change and extreme weather events because environmental officials in one country were planning a “big public splash.” The release of the documents has given ammunition to many skeptics of man-made global warming, who for years have argued that the scientific “consensus” was less robust than the official IPCC summaries indicated and that climate researchers systematically ostracized other scientists who presented findings that differed from orthodox views.




    The "Associated Press" http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5ikaqlFpp9jCRHWN0zNuamKXfyeMgD9C441LG0


    Some climate change skeptics and bloggers claim the information shows scientists have overstated the case for global warming, and allege the documents contain proof that some researchers have attempted to manipulate data.
    The furor over the leaked data comes weeks before the U.N. climate conference in Copenhagen, when 192 nations will seek to reach a binding treaty to reduce emissions of carbon dioxide and other heat-trapping greenhouse gases worldwide. Many officials — including U.N. Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon — regard the prospects of a pact being sealed at the meeting as bleak.
    In one leaked e-mail, the research center’s director, Phil Jones, writes to colleagues about graphs showing climate statistics over the last millennium. He alludes to a technique used by a fellow scientist to “hide the decline” in recent global temperatures. Some evidence appears to show a halt in a rise of global temperatures from about 1960, but is contradicted by other evidence which appears to show a rise in temperatures is continuing.
    Jones wrote that, in compiling new data, he had “just completed Mike’s Nature trick of adding in the real temps to each series for the last 20 years (i.e., from 1981 onwards) and from 1961 for Keith’s to hide the decline,” according to a leaked e-mail, which the author confirmed was genuine.
     
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    #78
    You'll find liberals are usually devoid of the ability to sense irony
    This may come from years of worshipping at the altar of airhead Hollywood celebrities that exit large air-conditioned mansions and cross over-watered green lawns to get in gas-guzzling limos that take them to a private jet that flies them cross-country to shake their self-righteous finger at others about being environmentally responsible.
     
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    Rob, you'll find liberals are usually devoid of the ability to sense their own hypocrisy.
     
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  20. Mia

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    #80
    This kinda says it all.

    [video=youtube;-Gf8NK1WAOc]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Gf8NK1WAOc[/video]
     
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