There cannot be reconciliation between lower beliefs and higher beliefs. “… Even if they sin against you seven times in a day and seven times come back to you saying ‘I repent,’ you must forgive them…. †Luke 17 4 This idea is higher than the "eye for an eye" one. The one given in Christianity is a higher idea, it will uplift you. Another example: The Rich Man and Lazarus 19 “There was a rich man who was dressed in purple and fine linen and lived in luxury every day. 20 At his gate was laid a beggar named Lazarus, covered with sores 21 and longing to eat what fell from the rich man’s table. Even the dogs came and licked his sores. 22 “The time came when the beggar died and the angels carried him to Abraham’s side. The rich man also died and was buried. 23 In Hades, where he was in torment, he looked up and saw Abraham far away, with Lazarus by his side. 24 So he called to him, ‘Father Abraham, have pity on me and send Lazarus to dip the tip of his finger in water and cool my tongue, because I am in agony in this fire.’ 25 “But Abraham replied, ‘Son, remember that in your lifetime you received your good things, while Lazarus received bad things, but now he is comforted here and you are in agony. 26 And besides all this, between us and you a great chasm has been set in place, so that those who want to go from here to you cannot, nor can anyone cross over from there to us.’ 27 “He answered, ‘Then I beg you, father, send Lazarus to my family, 28 for I have five brothers. Let him warn them, so that they will not also come to this place of torment.’ 29 “Abraham replied, ‘They have Moses and the Prophets; let them listen to them.’ 30 “‘No, father Abraham,’ he said, ‘but if someone from the dead goes to them, they will repent.’ 31 “He said to him, ‘If they do not listen to Moses and the Prophets, they will not be convinced even if someone rises from the dead.’†The selfishness of the rich man is contrary to Heaven's laws. That’s why he was not allowed in Heaven. No reconciliation between the lower and the higher laws. What you saw is what you will reap. Somebody asked which religion was best? There is only one true religion in the world and that is the religion of the Divine Love, Wisdom, and Truth. What the religions lack right now is "LOVE". If there is no Love in your beliefs you won't grow much.
In that story Lazarus was rewarded for being poor. Being poor isn't really noble. I don't see how it's virtuous to not be able to pay your bills. Now, being right outside the "Rich Man's" gate. You would think the rich man might have had some empathy, and tried to help him. But, in actuality, if there were a heaven, the only ones in that story that I would say would have actually "earned" there way in, would be the dogs.
I'm agnostic. But, I guess even among Christians, they do not interpret it in exactly the same way. I looked it up on Wikipedia - Views of historicity.
Hahaha, you're lucky there's this story, you'd be so scared of facing the reality of our lives, the fact that we're no different than dogs or plant, yes we die and that's the end.. But your story says different, like the fairy tales were the charming couple lived happy ever after.. hahaha, but why as a grown up you absolutely want to make it a serious business out of those simple stories? You want both to believe crap and be taken seriously, sorry you can't have it both way except within your community of mind.
I know that there are people who would rather have $100.00 in their pocket than a friend. (I know such people.) Now this could by itself be a topic for analysis. The rich man (in the story above) could have easily shared some of his wealth with the sick beggar, but he looked the other way. His heart was in the money, not in helping the needy. Paradise is not a place for heartless people. Now we see some mega rich in the world who want to give as little as possible. I hear this story about taxing the most rich that if their taxes are increased the economy would get hurt. What is this that you really need and cannot buy it with $90mln, but instead you have to have the $100mln? The bad is not in the wealth, it is in the greed, and the beliefs that money is the most important thing, more important than helping your neighbor in need. Just came in my mind the thought from the Bible. "You can't serve both God and money."
you must forgive them…. †‘Father Abraham, have pity on me.... Why then is the rich person in Hell if he is repentive? Answer: The Bible is wrong, There is no Hell. For the very reason there is a God whose guidance for the Outerwold is required, it is a contradiction to believe there is a Hell and its Inhabitants but simply as stated and the reason for expulsion is simply they are not allowed to "exist". Either: Actual Forgiveness, not that described in the Bible or Oblivion - is the true religion.
Many people think if they don't understand something it must be wrong or incorrect. You can't start school today and get with a college degree next week. You have to learn tons of things and pass many tests till you finish your school.... then comes another one. Education never ends for those who know. (Some people have hardly ever read something about spirituality and yet they know what is possible and what not. Gain,true knowledge, keep searching till you find the truth. Is it easy? -- Serious work is required.)
@TheMightofLove The world is full of people like Lazarus, right now. It's a bottomless pit of endless need. With the advent of the Internet, the world is at our front gate, and assistance as easy as logging into Paypal. We could all empty our bank accounts and it would hardly make a dent. But, I think most everyone would help a homeless, starving man, literally right outside our own gate. Anyway, I think it's an interesting story and thread. As far as hell, I don't really believe in it, but perhaps a milder version, we create in our own minds, in feelings of regret.
Do the small good deed, not the big one. That's what Beinsa Douno teaches. The great good deeds require much more than most of us have.If you give away everything you have but if you have no Love you are nothing. Again start small. Help one person at a time, not millions.(Maybe one day you will be able to help millions with God's help.) Best wishes.
Correction on this thought: "The great good deeds require much more than most of us have.If you give away everything you have but if you have no Love you are nothing. (Sorry, wanted to give another idea, just noticed it is not what I meant. - Man is always something." The correct is " ... if you give away everything, but if you have no Love You Gain Nothing." What most of us practice is not Divine Love yet .... giving away everything is for the heroes, we can give though the little with love. Give a little, but with love.
According to Master Beinsa Douno, Christ is the supreme governor of the Great Universal Brotherhood. If you believe in Christ why are you or anyone else choosing the interpretation of a (mortal) third party to support your belief? Isn't that why there is a Bible??? Whats with the "White" Brotherhood? ............. My point earlier was the commandment from God only stipulates Remittance is necessary for the reentry to Paradise or otherwise the individual will simply perish. Being already expelled why would there be another place called Hell when you already have no choice but to save yourself from oblivion anyway? Your Hell makes no sense.