Rumsfeld Caught On Video Admitting Flight 93 was shot down.

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  1. anthonycea

    anthonycea Banned

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    #61
    Keep defending the Nixon gang GTech, too bad they are doomed, but with the amount of money (Trillions have been stolen) they pushed into offshore accounts they should be able to buy their way out (They appointed the Supreme Court that put their asses in power) with a great legal team and pay you for propaganda served too!
     
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    #62
    Did you even bother to read the declassified NORTHWOODS document all the way through GTech?

    I doubt you did.

    As you are probably too lazy (or more than likely don't want to hear) just take a read from page 11 onwards :)

    There are only 15 pages and the font is quite large, wont take you longer than a few minutes guvnor. :D

    http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/news/20010430/doc1.pdf
     
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  3. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    #63
    So you are suggesting you are so familiar with it, that you can in fact discredit:

    http://screwloosechange.blogspot.com/2006/05/is-operation-northwoods-good-comp-for.html
    That would be a real feather in your cap to discredit it! I bet it wouldn't take you more than just a few minutes to do so.

    Feeling frisky? :D
     
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    #64
    Ok, I used to make such 'arguments' without a point just to tease the opposer. But that doesn't neccesarily gives the effect I want.

    For instance, usually a conspiracy theorist is someone that can't explain the official version with the knowledge (s)he has.

    What the invidual needs to switch to believe in the official version is not a kick-ass-insult, but rather a kick-ass-answer that will explain the question the CT ask.

    What happens when you hand out the kick-ass-insult is that you may hurt the CTs feelings, may the CT think that you are a part of the enormous conspiracy, but it's very unlikely that you changes ones worldview in the way you want. The CT may become afraid and keep it's thoughts for h(im || er)self and may keep feeling afraid for the conspiracy for the rest of (his || her) life AKA lifetime-paranoia.

    Thats the real danger in all this stuff!
     
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    Cyrus255 Well-Known Member

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    #65
    I thought South Park already addressed the 9/11 conspiracy issue for everyone already.

    Conspiracy theorists want to believe that the government is all powerful, in control of everything, and concocted the whole thing, rather than believe the inconvenient truth that a ragtag bunch of muslim fundamentalists crashed planes into buildings.

    On a side note, if it was a conspiracy, why are ANY of you allowed to speak about it? Why isn't alex jones dead? Why is every celebrity on the LEFT saying it? What kind of conspiracy does 1/4 of idiot america believe? Only the false ones. :D

    What was Bush's goal in 9/11? I mean really? what did it accomplish? there's no police state. Hell Bush can hardly get away with listening in on Al Qaeda phone calls to the US, without his ass being handed to him politically.

    I mean, if the republicans lose, and democrats throw investigations into the iraq war, 9/11, etc at the bush administration, will it still be a conspiracy?

    Sounds more like the whole conspiracy is a conspiracy. :D

    Like at the end of South Park, "well if Bush didn't cause 9/11, who did?"

    "a bunch of pissed-off muslims" "yeah, what are you retarded?"

    Couldn't of put it better myself.
     
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  6. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    #66
    Ssssshhhhhhh! I hear something, do you? Sounds like crickets chirping? :D

    Anything?
     
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    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    #69
    Well Oil (obviously) , permanent US military bases in Iraq (one of the fuckers even has a Burger King and Subway lol) , the oil pipelines and nice rebuilding contracts for his Government buddys for starters. ;)
     
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    #70
    First off, permanent military bases would be GREAT, but Bush is an idiot and doesn't realize Muslims hate ALL non-muslims. On the other hand, we'll NEVER get bases in hostile territory. You see Iraq IS muslim, and we are fightin muslim FUNDAMENTALISM, not extremism. Muslim fundamentalists have killed 2,000 buddhists in Thailand in the past 2 years. Is that a conspiracy too?

    The Qu'ran commands to achieve Dar Al Islam, one world under islam. Islam means "submission" and it's goal is domination, as laid out by Mohammad.

    Second, Saddam was killing 100,000 of his own people almost yearly, we've killed accidentilly 50,000 over 3 years, so technically 250,000 iraqi's have been saved overall.

    You realize if democrats win they will cut funding, force us to retreat, and possibly impeach bush on false claims. Bush stands to gain NOTHING from this. The Democrats are even threatening criminal charges.

    You don't realize how ridiculous it is to believe 1/3 of americans KNOW of a conspiracy. Ironically, only the poor, uneducated LIBERAL third of america. Well and the Nazi's AND Muslims blame neocon Jews.

    Whenever Nazis, Communists, and Muslims ALL agree on something, you have to know it's wrong. Nazis, Communists, and Muslims all believe 9/11 is a conspiracy caused by neocon Jews.

    Muslims argue they only fight defensively, like that Israel "took their land", and that America supports israel, so we must be satan. They don't, however, talk about the Muslim insurgency in Thailand that killed 2,000, and the Muslim general in Thailand who threw a coup and is "negotiating" with the terrorists. And they don't talk about the Muslim insurgency in the Sinkiang part of China. Or the Muslim insurgency in Casamance, Africa. Or the Muslim genociding of innocents in Darfur.

    Muslims are the AGGRESSORS of 14/21 of the current world conflicts, assuming Iraq is a defensive war for muslims. (hah, I'm being nice). Muslims are attacking ALL non-muslims as the Qu'ran commands. Killing buddhists in Thailand, athiests in China, africans in Sudan, catholics/athiests in France, where rioting has started back up and there are "no-go" zones where police don't enter, essentially muslim controlled parts of France. They have attacked Britain, and Spain, and terrorist groups massacre christians in Indonesia.

    If they are capable of all that, what makes you think they are not capable of hijacking a plane with box cutters on unprepared passengers who just thought they were gonna get a ransom and let them live.

    On a second note, the government DID know an attack MIGHT come, but this is not a typical war, you can't declare war on a country and attack them in pre-emption, they wear no uniform. You can't guard EVERY city's buildings. The only FEASIBLE city to attack might be Mecca and Medina, because atleast then they'd show up and fight.

    There was no way to stop the attack without knowing EXACTLY where and when. On another note, Clinton put up a wall between the CIA and FBI, cut intelligence spending to zilch, etc. We were shooting in the dark. Even now, our intelligence community is not as advanced as it was in the 70's even.
     
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    #71
    I have seen that movie a few months ago. It doesn't neccesarily means that the plane was shot down by terrorist or the millitary, it could be that he simply misspoke himself(and the history tells us that we should neither trust Bush or Rumsfelds abillity to speak perfect ;) ). So I think it's simply just a mistake.

    btw.. the event happened years ago.
     
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    #74
    Either 9/11 was a conspiracy by BOTH DEMOCRATS AND REPUBLICANS, or NO ONE. Du'h.

    So was the FIRST World Trade Center Attack a CONSPIRACY by BILL CLINTON?!

    What about the embassy bombings? Or the USS cole attack? These were coordinated, skilled muslim fundamentalists determined to fulfill allah's command to dominate the world. One world under Islam. Dar Al Islam.

    Muslims killed 2,000 buddhists in Thailand. What makes you surprised they could do it here?
     
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    #75
    Calling the left Nazi's in your propaganda blog pal :confused:

    I think you better plug this into Google NIXON NAZI

    We will be waiting to hear your excuses (Fraud and Lies) :eek:
     
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    #76
    Wow, simply wow.

    Nazi = National SOCIALISTS


    Nazis are just patriotic communists. D'uh. Nazi is a pun off of Sozi (socialist) it's just a Nationalistic, i.e. patriotic communist!


    They are only "right wing", in the sense that "right wing" usually means patriotic or religious, but that leaves out the biggest part of the right: conservatism, which is anti-big government, anti-SOCIALISM and Nazism is Patriotic Socialism. Conservatives believe in SMALL government, because man is corruptible. Nazism IS ANTI-CONSERVATIVE. It is a "progressive" liberal movement, that just disagress on the methods from communism.

    LIBERALS believe man can "progress" so Liberals favor BIG GOVERNMENT, and usually climb their way up to it by giving out handouts to the poor and playing off of racial minorities, and the supposed civil liberties of decadence.
     
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  17. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #77
    Now I know why I had Tesla on ignore for 7 months. I think it is time to hit that button again.

    Now, as to the video. Source? Prison Planet, which we all know is the leading source of news and information for anyone and everyone that wants factual information.

    Next, why do we not hear the entire speach? What context was it in? What exactly was being referred to? It's rather difficult to tell from the few seconds the video runs.

    I know Anthony spews bunk like this daily because he wants attention and post counts. With you, I get the impression you believe some of the things you say.
     
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    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #78

    Great find latehorn. Way to be on the ball. Old news, debunked.
     
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    #79
    It doesn't really matter what context it was in if you listen to what he's saying. The context is irrelivant in this case.

    Rummy let it slip. "Doh" as Homer would say. :D
    He does have a habit of doing that sometimes. But when you are constantly fooling the American public it is inevitable. ;)
     
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    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    Explain that.
     
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