They're in England...not California. Lucky that! Seems it's happening all over the US now too. The newest thing is a gang of 30 to 50 people are ram raiding businesses - everyone stealing stuff at once with over 80 raids so far. Maybe you should invest in brooms? I think all this news is a push to make people register facebook / twitter with real IDs (better marketing).
Hah!The UK has done a better job at disarming their citizens than even the Peoples Republik of California. I like watching the house of commons on CSPAN. Just they other day they were going on and on about how to get knifes out of the hands of their citizens.
I think you missed the point that some of those with "brooms" died. They should have had something more threatening... Don't remind us of our slavery Onation. My collection of knives is all I have at home to protect my family against intruders. I've heard small riots are happening in America, let's see how quickly bullets stop attackers; that is, if they actually make use their second amendment.
Seems Alex mighta read my earlier post and ran with it. [video=youtube;n0Q3ugdtxTo]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n0Q3ugdtxTo[/video] Seriously, you arguing THAT point? How many WOULD have died if they all had guns? For the sake of what exactly? A bit of STUFF? Are you seriously that deluded to think that argument is even debatable?
I estimate nearly no businesses owners would have died if these silly monkeys knew they had guns. You know why? Because they're the biggest pussies around and only attack defenceless people. Did you miss the reports of criminals having the odd gun when rioting? "A bit of stuff" typical commie comment who thinks everyone's possessions belong to everyone else
I believe you don't have the right to take away someone else's life in order to hang on to your "stuff". You should NEVER appreciate stuff over life. If that's "commie" i'll take it.
I fully support the conversion of thieves into sieves. You should NEVER appreciate criminals over the law abiding. You're a mugger's best friend
I have no problem with you punching the shit out of them and getting your stuff back lol, but taking a life is something you can't ever undo and the scales weigh too heavily towards immoral for me.
I have no doubt that a gang of 3 people would take you down in less then a minute . So you'd loose you stuff an stay a few weeks in the hospital . Still want to punch them out ? @BRUm they had a pseudo riot in the US but it was crushed faster than you can say gun .
Try that against a bunch of armed hooligans, hell bent on robbing you. If taking a life can save few other lives, I'd say go for it. Nothing immoral in it. Also when you will find yourself in danger, morals will be the last thing that will come to your mind. Survival by any means possible will be your priority.
My point of having gun controls means the crims aren't allowed to have them. Sure the million guns that are out there right now will either get used in a crime (such as robbing me or you) but eventually every unlicensed gun left will either stay underground (where it won't be a problem) or will get used & found. One day no crim will have guns though it might take a million lives to get there. Without controls we'll all end up armed with our personal nuclear bombs. Citizens in England had guns though you'd never believe it the way some here carry on, the people that were smart enough not to go shooting people for the heck of it that is. I believe without any gun controls in England both sides would have killed a lot of people. In the bigger picture is it worth it? They're mainly just angry kids who don't know any other way to fight back...and the right-wing Internet's telling them they should be angry.. what's the big picture? They took advantage of a sytem that takes advantage of them all the time... Now they're paying with jail...the way it shoulda been...not as if they've walked away scott free. I do agree with that 100%.
How can you believe this when history and reality shows us that this is complete and utter fantasy? "Underground guns won't be a problem" made me laugh hard. We have some of the strictest gun control laws in the world and illegal firearms around Manchester and London, to name a couple, are rife. Go back to sleep...
According to that logic, there should be shootouts in the USA every day. Criminals with guns always use them against defenseless people without guns. At the slightest hint of armed opposition, criminals with guns go running. "The very atmosphere of firearms anywhere and everywhere restrains evil interference - they deserve a place of honor with all that's good." George Washington
well, at least *I* got a laugh! You should back yourself up with facts (made myself laugh with that one! Bushie and facts! yuck yuck )
Are you really saying there isn't at least 10 shooting deaths in the USA and at least 2 or 3 shootouts every night on your TV? Now whether you realise it or not, this is just one pointer to why *I* think you speak shit. Something as obvious as the USA having shootouts every single day and you want me to provide proof of that? You need to qualify exactly what facts you want because if "I am aware of how much death you have over there then surely you are too". Do I really need to repost all those YouTube news clips I pass by every day? Try Wavy News on YouTube as they seem to report them every day, sometimes three a day, and in one single town... It's not hard to suppose it would be like that across the nation. Now compare your gun death figures per 100,000 population with any other nation that has established gun controls. No comparison is there? Not only do the unarmed people shoot each other a hell of a lot less, but the police also end up shooting a lot LESS people too.
Let me remind you... Nice try, but... You aren't claiming "shooting deaths", as in one person with a gun shoots someone without a gun. Not all of these are crimes, some are Defensive Gun Uses (DGUs). People that are against gun ownership tend to forget to cull DGUs out of the stats. Anyway, you are claiming "shootouts" in the USA, as in two or more people with guns start shooting at each other. Shootouts (a gun battle between armed groups). Got it? So, show me your stats, cowboy! Cite Me!
If we consider countries like Australia, UK or even India where there are strict gun control laws are applicable, Gun crimes are equally prevalent mate. The only difference is that in those countries, people who are killed often are unarmed innocent victims, while in US, many of those killed are the aggressors. Allowing general population to have guns does not increase crime rate mate. Strict gun control is a blessing for criminals. They know that they can obtain a gun illegally and when they go robbing someone, they know he will be unarmed sitting duck. At the worst it will increase the accident rates, when a moron gets his hand on a gun. But of course if they talk about lenient Gun control in India, I'll be against it. Because in a country filled with morons, they will end up shooting themselves in the foot or someone else...
Great points Corwin. He's using the same old tricks that I pointed out here. Also, he doesn't have stats. because he thinks he doesn't need them