Republican scandals vs Democratic scandals; let's count!

Let's try to tally scandals at the federal legislative, judicial, executive, gubernatorial levels, since this administration has been in power.


I'll start:

The Jack Abramoff scandal.

 

Sandy Berger - Democrat - National Security Adviser during the Clinton Administration. On September 8, 2005, Berger was sentenced to two years probation, 100 hours of community service, and a fine of $50,000 for unlawfully stuffing classified documents from the National Archives into his pants and intentionally destroying some of them.

Daniel Baugh Brewster - Democrat - U.S. Senator from Maryland. Indicted on charges of accepting illegal gratuity while in Senate.

Bill Campbell - Democrat - Mayor of Atlanta. Indicted and charged with fraud over claims he accepted improper payments from contractors seeking city contracts.

John A. Celona - Democrat - A former state senator was charged with the three counts of mail fraud. Federal prosecutors accused him of defrauding the state and collecting hundreds of thousands of dollars from CVS Corp. and others while serving in the legislature. Celona has agreed to plead guilty to taking money from the CVS pharmacy chain and other companies that had interest in legislation. Under the deal, Celona agreed to cooperate with investigators. He faces up to five years in federal prison on each of the three counts and a $250,000 fine.

Gary Condit - Democrat - US Democratic Congressman from California. Condit had an affair with an intern. Condit, covered up the affair and lied to police after she went missing. No charges were ever filed against Condit. Her remains were discovered in a Washington DC park.

Jerry Cosentino - Democrat - Illinois State Treasurer. Pleaded guilty to bank fraud - fined $5,000 and sentenced to nine months home confinement.

Gloria Davis - Democrat - Bronx assemblywoman. Pleaded guilty to second-degree bribe-taking

Thomas Joseph Dodd - Democrat - U.S. Senator from Connecticut. Censured by the Senate for financial improprieties, having diverted $116,000 in campaign and testimonial funds to his own use.

DNC - The Federal Election Commission imposed $719,000 in fines against participants in the 1996 Democratic Party fund raising scandals involving contributions from China, Korea and other foreign sources. The Federal Election Commission said it decided to drop cases against contributors of more than $3 million in illegal DNC contributions because the respondents left the country or the corporations are defunct.

Angelo Errichetti - Democrat - New Jersey State Senator was sentenced to six years in prison and fined $40,000 for his involvement in Abscam.

Barney Frank - Democrat - U.S. Representative from Massachusetts from 1981 to present. Admitted to having paid Stephen L. Gobie, a male prostitute, for sex and subsequently hiring Gobie as his personal assistant. Gobie used the congressman's Washington apartment for prostitution. A move to expel Frank from the House of Representatives failed and a motion to censure him failed.

David Giles - Democrat - candidate for U.S. Representative from Washington in 1986 and 1990. Convicted in June 2000 of child rape.

Neil Goldschmidt - Democrat - Oregon governor. Admitted to having an illegal sexual relationship with a 14-year-old teenager while he was serving as Mayor of Portland.


Roger L. Green - Democrat - Brooklyn Democrat Assemblyman. Pleaded guilty to a misdemeanor for accepting travel reimbursement for trips he did not pay for and was sentenced to fines and probation.

Jesse Jackson - Democrat - Democratic candidate for President Admitted to having an extramarital affair and fathering a illegitimate child.

William Jefferson - Democrat - U.S. Representative from Louisiana is under investigation for bribery in 2006. A search of Jefferson's house turned up $90,000 stashed in various frozen food containers in his freezer. FBI agents told a judge that the money was part of a $100,000 payment that had been delivered by an informant in the bribery case.

Mark B. Jimenez - Democrat fund raiser - sentenced to 27 months in prison on charges of tax evasion and conspiracy to defraud the United States and commit election financing offenses

Bolley ''Bo'' Johnson - Democrat - Former Florida House Speaker - received a two-year term for tax evasion

Guy Hamilton Jones, Sr. - Democrat -Arkansas State Senate. Convicted on federal tax charges and expelled from the Arkansas Senate.

James McGreevey - Democrat - New Jersey Governor . Admitted to having a gay affair. Resigned after allegations of sexual harassment, rumors of being blackmailed on top of fund raising investigations and indictments.

Alan Bowlby Mollohan (b. 1943) — U.S. Representative from West Virginia from 1983 to the present. In April 2006, Mollohan stepped down temporarily from his post as ranking Democrat on the House ethics committee, amid accusations that he used his congressional position to funnel money to his own home-state foundations, possibly enriching himself in the process.

Hazel O'Leary - Democrat - Secretary of Energy during the Clinton Administration - O'Leary took trips all over the world as Secretary with as many 50 staff members and at times, rented a plane, which was used by Madonna during her concert tours.

Sowande Ajumoke Omokunde - Democrat - the son of newly elected U.S. Rep. Gwen Moore, was booked on charges of criminal damage to property for allegedly slashing tires on 20 vans and cars rented by the Republican Party for use in Election Day voter turnout efforts.

Edward Fretwell Prichard, Jr. - Democrat - Delegate to Democratic National Convention from Kentucky. Convicted of vote fraud in federal court in connection with ballot-box stuffing. Served five months in prison.

Harry Mason Reid (b.1939) — Senator from Nevada and Senate Minority Leader. In October, 2006, it was disclosed that Reid has been using campaign donations instead of his personal money to pay Christmas bonuses for the support staff at the Ritz-Carlton where he lives in an upscale condominium.

Bill Richardson - Democrat - Governor of New Mexico. For about four decades, Richardson, often mentioned as a possible Democratic presidential candidate, has maintained that he was drafted by the A's. But an investigation by the Albuquerque Journal found no record of Richardson being drafted by the A's or any other team. Informed by the newspaper of its findings, the governor acknowledged the error in a story in Thursday's editions. "After being notified of the situation and after researching the matter … I came to the conclusion that I was not drafted by the A's," Richardson said. He said he had believed it was true based on an old program from an amateur team he had played for.

Don Eugene Siegelman (b. 1941) - Governor Alabama - indicted in a bid-rigging scheme involving a maternity-care program. The charges accused Siegelman and his former chief of staff of helping Tuscaloosa physician Phillip Bobo rig bids. Siegelman was accused of moving $550,000 from the state education budget to the State Fire College in Tuscaloosa so Bobo could use the money to pay off a competitor for a state contract for maternity care.

Gary Siplin (b. 1954) — Florida State Senator Siplin was found guilty by a jury in August
2006 of third-degree felony grand theft of $5,000 or more and misdemeanor using services of employees for his candidacy.

Gerry Eastman Studds (1937-2006)- Democrat - U.S. Representative from Massachusetts from 1973 to 1997. The first openly gay member of Congress. Censured by the House of Representatives for having sexual relations with a teenage House page.

James A. Traficant Jr. - Member of House of Representatives from Ohio. Expelled from Congress after being convicted of corruption charges.. Sentenced to eight years in prison for accepting bribes and kickbacks and wearing a really bad rug.

Maxine Waters - Democrat - U.S. Representative from California since 1991. A December 2004 Los Angeles Times investigation disclosed how members of the congresswoman's family have made more than $1 million in the past eight years by doing business with companies, candidates and causes that Waters has helped.

Shall I go on?

 

Already done it... (thread now dead)

"Google Search for Keyword "Democrat Scandals" 17,800,000 results

Google Search for Keyword "Republican Scandals" 16,400,000 results"

Of course if you look now, it is something like 12,600,000 Dems to 12,300,000 Republicans. Must have been a big daddy update or something...

 

This thread is an attempt to shine a light on corruption taht has taken place during this administration and see who is mostly responsible for it.
If anyone wants to rehash the Clinton scandals they can pull up one of a million existing threads.

 

well you said Republican vs Democrat... how can it only be for you to highlight Bush if it's republican vs democrat?

 

The death if Habeas Corpus R.I.P. (1215 - 2006).

Convieniently for the republicans, the law which in effect suspends Habeas Corpus was passed on the same day the 'foley scandal' was leaked.

I don't know why American citizens let their politicians get away with passing such laws.

P.S. MRMOJO - Ive written your response here for you to copy and paste:

hey why dont you brits worry about britain and stuff yeah because i havent got anything better to say.

you brits need worry bout your backyard!?

 

lol, you got beat up in school alot didn't you

 

You get out smarted alot don't you?

 

well lets try and find out.

I'll give you a choice of topics I am proficient in:

1) Quantum Theory
2) Quantum Physics
3) Cosmology
4) Astronomy

among others, but these I prefer cause they are my weird fetish

care to discuss?

 

I'm not highlighting bush. I'm highlighting a timeframe. The time during the Bush administration.

Plamegate:

http://www.cnn.com/2005/POLITICS/10/28/leak.probe/

 

Why don't you post a thread and the people who have some contribution to make will respond.

Its pretty simple. Hopefully you wont get any idiots that dont know what they are talking about but will still try and look like they have something to offer.

 

OK, well your thread didn't specify that... sorry, figured you wanted a balanced thread, not a Bush bash event. Once you edit in your blatant bias in the OP I will remove/edit my posts to reflect as such.

 

What exactly does the Military Commissions Act have to do with Habeas Corpus?

Did you even bother to ready the act? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_Commissions_Act_of_2006

Really? Are you sure there? It was passed when? The bill was introduced on September 22, 2006 and signed into law by President Bush on October 17, 2006. It passed the senate on September 28th and the House on the 27th of that same month. When was the "Foley scandal" "leaked" as you call it? What are you trying to say? That Bush just created the legislation the day the news about Foley broke? Talk about conspiracy theories.... If this ain't a moonbat perspective on reality, I don't know what is.

Well, actually they do not. They (we) elect officials to represent us in office. If they do something we do not like, we don't vote for them again. If they do, we keep voting for them.

Now the Military Commissions Act you are referring to here, was passed by both house of congress. You can learn more about the process from start to finish here: http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c109:S.+3930:

You can learn more about the facts of the Military Commissions Act here: http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2006/10/20061017.html

In the Senate:

"On a 65-34 vote, with 12 Democrats joining, the Senate passed S 3930 Thursday night after 10 hours of debate. The bill is identical to the House version passed earlier, meaning no conference committee parley will be needed.

Democrats in favor (12) - Carper (DE), Johnson (SD), Landrieu (LA), Lautenberg (NJ), Lieberman (CT), Menendez (NJ), Nelson (FK), Nelson (NE), Pryor (AR), Rockefeller (WV), Salazar (CO), Stabenow (MI). "

In the House.... 34 Democrats (16%) voted "yes." for the bill.

A lot of Democrats voted for this bill, in both houses. So it did not come down to a 100% partisan issue.

If you actually bothered to read the bill, and the current law, you would never have posted the drivel you most likely got 3rd party from some moonbat hell bent on twisting the truth.

I feel sorry for people who fall prey to this type of mindless brain washing. It must suck to always be a follower. It must be really nerve racking not having the ability to think and reason for yourself. I would hate having to rely on others telling me what my opinion is.

Try thinking for yourself for once. Its' quite liberating.

 

there ya go liberal.. I updated the list with recent democrap scandals

 

Habeas Corpus in short is the right to seek release from unlawful imprisonment. This right allows detainees to be brought to a common law court so it can be determined whether or not that person is imprisoned lawfully and whether or not he or she should be released from custody.

The Military Commissions act removes this common law right for any non-us citizen that the government deems to be an "unlawful enemy combatant engaged in hostilities or having supported hostilities against the United States".

Military Commissions Act of 2006 is, without doubt, a suspension of Habeas Corpus:

From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Habeas_corpus:

On 29 September 2006, the U.S. House and Senate approved the Military Commissions Act of 2006, a bill which would suspend habeas corpus for any alien (noncitizen) determined to be an "unlawful enemy combatant engaged in hostilities or having supported hostilities against the United States"[2][3] by a vote of 65-34. (This was the result on the bill to approve the military trials for detainees; an amendment to remove the suspension of habeas corpus failed 48-51.[4]) President Bush signed the Military Commissons Act of 2006 into law on October 17, 2006.​

Your Government can hold people prison without the right to a fair trial. It has held people in prison for years who have not been deemed guilty or innocent. This is what your government does. I could travel to america and they could imprison me for weeks, months, years, if they had any suspicions about me.

The only reason this law was passed was so the bush clan can get away with what they have done at Gitmo. The prisonors will be held to trial in fake courts (military commissons) and most of them will be released.

I meant the senate approved the bill on the 29th, foley scandal came to the media attention on 28th or 29th. The passing of the bill on the 29th would have been the main political story of that day if it wasn't for the foley thing. It is already known that a few top republicans were aware of this looming scandal.

Sure it could be a coincidence that these dates match, this is very possible. But it is a common tactic for politicians to bury certain controversial news stories by announcing or leaking other news stories as a diversion - this is politics. Its naive not to question the timing.

Questioning everything your Government does is what a healthy and functioning democracy needs.

They do pass the laws.

I hope Nov. 7th sends the right message to them.

I am not subject to any brainwashing, I do not swallow what your President says.

He dressed up the Military Commissions act with lots of claims about it giving justice to the victims of 9/11 when it actually has no link to justice for the people that died on that day. What sort of justice is it to remove peoples right to a fair trial?

I would suggest you try thinking a little harder about the military commissions act and wether you think its good to treat people in a way that removes their FREEDOM.

 

There are probably that many repulicans involved in the Jack Abramoff scandal alone. (and a few democrats too) And I'm only talking about at the federal and state level. You've included people all the way down to local politics. If we tried to construct a list of all dirty republicans and democrats at all levels it would surely take down DP's servers.


Congressman Bob Ney pleads guilty:

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/10/19/w...rss&adxnnlx=1162242362-eDYhjDgsyyx18Jjf1x4OhQ



Bush ex-official jailed in Abramoff case
http://www.cleveland.com/open/plaindealer/index.ssf?/base/ispol/116204375665210.xml&coll=2


It's also a scandal that went all the way to the top of republican leadership, forcing House Majority Leader, DeLay to resign.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/09/28/AR2005092800270.html
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/12/30/AR2005123001480.html

I don't think republicans are inherently anymore corrupt. But absolute power corrupts absolutely, and that's what we've seen during the last six years.

 

Re-read that 10 times.

Just think if we could have done that pre-9/11... Re-read that 10 times.

Get away with what? You mean suspending US Citizen's rights to terrorists? Last I heard, these people never had those rights to begin with, so nothing has been taken away from them.

Gee, that's odd.. I seem to remember first hearing about Foley on the 10th of October. I'm still not sure what strange conclusion you are trying to draw here.

As to Foley.... Whooopie... He talked to a page. Gerry Studds admitting ass raping a child back in 73'. He did it, continued working, never apologized and never resigned. Oh, did I mention he was a democrat?

What's your point?

Ah, well they do not. Not even close.

Yep, Bush is some how capable of burying reports about passing the Military Commissions Act, just so he can let a damaging Republican scandal take center stage. You kill me... You're a funny guy.

There is a difference between "questioning" and altering reality to fit the needs of the moonbat agenda.

It will. You'll no doubt question the results and scream at diebold.

It's already cleane; devoid of any original thought.

Read the bill, I provided you with links to an unaltered version devoid of moonbat propaganda and liberal suggestion. Read it, (10 times at least). I think you will find it makes perfect sense and does nothing to deny any American citizen their rights.

Whose freedom are we referring to again? I was not aware that terrorists or enemy combatants where granted the same rights as law abiding citizens of the US.

You might want to take some time away from DP and actually read the act. If you need help, I can recommend several remedial reading courses that might help.​

 

I havent bothered reading everything but your government has made it legal to imprison people without trial or any common law legal recourse.

You can say something about BUT THEY ARE TERRORISTS.

In your mind its ok to remove peoples freedoms because they are criminals? What happened to innocent until proven guilty?

Is this the American way? I thought America was formed on justice and liberty.

 

But you are bothered to make judgement?

They are called enemy combatants. That's who it targets, that's who it's gone after and unless you are working to bring harm to our country, there is no worry. In our country, we don't coddle terrorists.

Yes, I want to remove the freedom of terrorists to complete their operations. Of course, if "being kind to terrorists" is your bag of tea, move to the UK. Or wait till Democrats are in office again.

 

So you admit you are completely ignorant to the facts. How can you tell me you have not read the law, and then in the same breath make such an ignorant statement?

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What "freedoms" are you referring to? Someone who comes to the US and is not a US citizen and attempts to blow up a building is not protected under the same laws as a US citizen.

Show me specifcally what "Freedoms" these people had that are being removed? Please cite a source... Wait, you don't do that. You just make blanket statements, admit your ignorance and go on saying things that have no basis in fact.

It is. Read the law like I asked. America does not just rush to judgment, remove heads and worry about the truth later. In America we actually give more rights to illegal aliens than we do to our own citizens. That IS and has been the "problem" in America. Try educating yourself on the subject instead of relying on opinions that have been provided to you.

Read the bill/law.