I notice a lot of Islamists type PBUH when they mention the name of a Prophet. IsreaI (I think it was), at some stage told us that the Prophet Mahummed decreed a blessing be bestowed when mentioning a name. So, my point is; PBUH is not a blessing is it? WTF? Whilst you may think typing PBUH actually means Peace Be Upon Him in your head it really doesn't mean that at all. In fact it simply means PBUH, often read as poo-bar! This leaves me open to thinking all kinds of things instead of the word "Peace" to start with, and of course this can easily be turned around to in fact be the opposite of a blessing. So IMHO, if indeed you want PEACE TO BE UPON HIM - then type it like that or don't type it at all !
See, now you learnt something... but... as a blessing is it wrong? Should they type PBUH or the actual blessing given the intent?
before we go ripping on islam, it is the biggest religion by numbers on earth, it surpassed roman catholic years back. i wondered if that is why the roman catholic church is against condoms (contraception) and against abortions at the same time.
There's nothing that suggests that one has to abbreviate it to "PBUH" or "SAW" as many ignorants do. The correct way is to say it in full or write it in full. This is the reason why we do it in the first place: Kaab Ibn Ujrah (may Allaah be pleased with him) relates that the Messenger of Allaah (صلى الله عليه وسلم‎) said; Come near to the mimbar and we came near the mimbar. When He (صلى الله عليه وسلم‎) climbed the first step of the mimbar, He (صلى الله عليه وسلم)‎ said "Aameen", When He (صلى الله عليه وسلم‎) ascended the second step, He (صلى الله عليه وسلم‎) said "Aameen", When He (صلى الله عليه وسلم‎) climbed the third step, He (صلى الله عليه وسلم‎) said "Aameen" When He (صلى الله عليه وسلم‎) came down, We said "O Messenger of Allaahh (صلى الله عليه وسلم‎), we have heard from you today something which we never heard before" He (صلى الله عليه وسلم‎) said When I climbed the first step, the angel Jibraeel (Gabriel) (عليه السلام) appeared before me and said: "Destruction to him who found the blessed month of Ramadhan and let it pass by without gaining forgiveness" upon that I said 'Aameen'. When I climbed the second step, he said, "Destruction to him before whom thy name is taken and then he does not make supplication for Allah's blessing on you (by saying, for example ""May Allah honour him and grant him peace."")." I replied 'Aameen'. When I climbed the third step, he said "Destruction unto him in whose lifetime his parents or either one of them reaches old age, and (through failure to serve them) he is not allowed to enter Paradise". I said 'Aameen'. (Hakim, Baihaqi) The one that does not ask God to bless the Prophet Muhammad صلى الله عليه وآله‎ when he is mentioned will be under the curse of Gabriel as is evident from the above narration. God himself says: "Indeed, Allah confers blessing upon the Prophet, and His angels [ask Him to do so]. O you who have believed, ask [ Allah to confer] blessing upon him and ask [ Allah to grant him] peace. Quran 33:56 So (1) To avoid the curse to be under the curse of Gabriel and (2) because God himself commands it.
sounds like a ploy that christian would use from the bible. what the bible says, if it is similar to what is written in the bible, then the verse is more that that originally stated..........
I didn't start the thread to rip into Islam, just to make the point that I think PBUH is not a blessing in any way, shape or form. Saving those who do it from peril once they work out the error of their ways you could say. Can you imagine how upsetting it could be once you work out how evil you were? Just think how many suicides I've prevented here!
that also, one person demonstrates his appreciation about how a religious verse can be interpreted and the followers go with it exactly? wouldn't God be bored by that or is that easy for God?
Which verse? Btw I was just confirming that Bushranger is right, and I added some more information to make it known why we do this, that's all.
Personally I reckon God wouldn't like it, in full or abbreviated as He commands obedience to Him alone. I don't feel the need to PBUH anyone as they are as much a part of God as you and I are IMHO. My God would prefer I not devote my life too concerned about some old farts claiming to be extra special in order to better their own lives, as He treats us all the same.
No, it's a Hadith. Basically someone (Kaab Ibn Ujrah) who was a witness of this event is narrating it to us.
I was actually being ferrous about it . I know what it means . I had a few Muslim GFs that talked my ear off with that kind of stuff .
so it is a hadith, not from when the koran was dictacted to mohammed, that would not be the text from God, right?
It is not the words of God, no. If you read the Hadith I posted earlier you will find that it is an event during the time of Prophet Muhammad صلى الله عليه وسلم being narrated by someone (Kaab Ibn Ujrah), it is his account of what happened. In the Hadith you will find the words of the narrator (Kaab Ibn Ujrah), and the words of the Prophet صلى الله عليه وسلم. Hadith is one of our sources of information.
sounds like a difference when God spoke to mohammed directly and when he did not? sounds like a difference from other holy text that are non mohammed influenced?
Quran and Hadith are different yes, 1 is the verbatim word of God, while the other is a narration, i.e. someone narrating an event that took place, something the Prophet صلى الله عليه وسلم did, something the Prophet صلى الله عليه وسلم said, etc.