United States Heading towards a Depression?

Since Corwin and I have been here long enough to know your tactics. He and I want you to back up your idea of the hope you have for the future. You know, the one where they continue to print up 600 to 800 billion dollars at a time and nothing happens but more debt for the American people.



You only talk in Republican gibberish. Wise up and get a new soapbox. Yours is worn out.
You would not answer if gold is money, you would not deny you are the Blodget guy. You really have nothing
to back up what you say. There was one rare time you mentioned that those responsible for the problems should
be put in jail. Your PC talk is exhausted. But please, stay on here in this thread because you serve as a weak adversary.


Common sense says - Do not go into more debt when you are bankrupt.


Breeze Wood and the PC crowd say different.

 

This is funny... smoking gun. Breeze admits he does not care about the facts!

Again, Blue Star, your request is reasonable - but Breeze-bot's responses are limited. Remember, he's incapable of answering direct questions unless the response is already pre-programmed. He is not programmed for intelligent responses, and as he has just stated, he cannot handle facts. He's more of a "word jumble".

 

Not exactly a call to Arms, but for Obama a fresh start for the Campaigner in Chief and rightfully deserved.

 

So, that's all Obama is. He's not the Commander in chief, he's the Campaigner in Chief - and rightfully deserved!!!

 

Breeze Wood... show up and tell us why you have hope for a future where 600 to 800 billion dollars get printed up ( more than once ) and the only people who benefit are bankers, not Americans.

 

Let me get this. On one hand you're saying today's money is all fake (agreed) then you say there's a problem with printing more of it. I could see your point if it was based on gold but based on fakeness surely it don't matter how much they print, not that I believe they should be printing more, i'm just trying to work out your logic here.

Moody's say the problem's not the debt, it's the debt ceiling.
[video=youtube;FdGd_PcUvP4]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FdGd_PcUvP4[/video]

 

Bush, it's because although today's money is worthless the people will still be expected to pay it all back at some point whether the currency becomes more valuable in the future or not. Also, the indirect effects that come with the debt are crippling e.g. massive increase in taxation and decrease in public spending.

 

I give an example to people I know :

If you are a business owner and you do business in your town with other business owners, but one guy wants to be a bit more liberal in his dealings with other business owners in that town, and... with you. We will call him Fred ( not Breeze Wood ).


Fred insists on printing up his own money that everyone else in town also uses. Fred wants to print it himself. He has a printer in his garage, and when he is a bit low on the money, he prints up a bunch. Sometimes Fred even prints some up and gives it to known enemies of your town. Later, everyone in town has a lot of Fred's printed up money floating around town. But all this guy has is a printer. All that is happening is that when Fred wants more and wants some of your goods, he is turning to the printer, NOT HIS OWN WORK. Would you say that man is dishonest ?


You will not want to continue to do business with Fred in your town. Fred has nothing to back up his printed up money. If you are smart, you will either get a group of business owners in town to band together to make Fred stop printing his money, or you will simply stop doing business with him...and get this... look for another form of money to use. Because Fred is destroying your town's economy... every time Fred prints up more, the value of each bill goes down. You want your labors, the minutes of your life, to continue having their same value. Fred is messing that up when you use his printed money. Why should he be the only "game" in town ?


Now... take a letter out of the name "Fred". Take out the "R" and you have what is going on globally. The missnamed "Fed".


One other point, if you can prevent Fred from printing up money, you will still need another currency to use, and if you learned from your experience with Fred, you will not allow another business owner in town to do what Fred did in the future. Fred literally destroyed your life and the lives of the other business owners.



Did you see what Rick Perry said about the head of the Fed (Fred) ? He said this : LINK

 

Bushie, I listened to that mumbler in your video. He's basically parroting the Washington talking points:
1. The S&P downgrade is not important (he doesn't mention China's downgrade)
2. The debt ceiling is not important, raise raise raise
3. "This is a long-term problem" Translation: Don't fix anything now, screw your kids
4. Spend, spend, spend
5. I have no solution

I noted the manipulative and violent rhetoric about shooting people in the head, too. I also noted that he completely ignored our record unemployment, which has unanimously become the official barometer of the Obama Economy.

 

S&P was political in regards to a persuasion rather than facts that was a part of their Downgrade - much was said of their Republican leanings which does seem a correct assumption.

The Republicans failed in their Summer Offensive in Substance but of course succeeded by using deceit and distortion that were of their own making.

Blue Star - I have responded in the past to your narrow view - nothing wrong in printing money particularly during an Illiquidity based Recession equivalent to the Great Depression and with expanding population etc. etc. for many reasons and the Federal Reserve is the nations Bank, your analogy of Fred is ridiculous and not worth the time to mention.

We know Blue Star, pandering to you wins votes contrary to economic reality. Well, your own people find Perry as disingenuous. (Hint)

 

Obama is political in regards to a persuasion rather than facts that he was a part of the Downgrade - much was said of Obama's lack of leadership which does seem a correct assumption.

Obama has failed in Substance but of course succeeded by using deceit and distortion that were of his own making.

Blue Star - Breeze is incapable of responding to you - he doesn't understand that it is wrong to print money particularly during an Illiquidity based Recession that is equivalent to the Great Depression. Breeze actually believes that with expanding population etc. etc. for many other silly reasons he thinks the Federal Reserve is the nations Bank. Blue Star, your analogy of Fred is right on!

We all know Breeze Wood lies.

 

We know Corwin, the truth can be hurtful. Your Immoral Iraqi War has gotten the better of you Corwin.

Corwin, more of the truth from someone willing to pay their fair share. That's right, run to the Tea Party - they will help someone like you.

Corwin, in case you ran away from it the first time here it is again - Americas AAA rating was reaffirmed with a stable outlook, again run to the Tea Party, they will help you.

Again Corwin, just because you are responsible for the Nations Recession and the Immoral Iraqi War is no reason to think no one will listen to you - that's right, the Tea Party is all Ears for just your type.


Tea Party = Where people like Corwin can feel like they are adults when there is nothing else left for them.

 

Look ! Why was this not a surprise : Breeze Wood turns to insults when he "has nothing more to say".
Hey Breeze Wood, how about answering questions... you have lost this debate because you have no answers to basic economics. The USA is in depression. It happened on your group's watch. The majority feel it is culpable. Right now, being PC is being in the loser's camp.

 

We know Breeze Wood, the truth can be very hurtful to you. Your Immoral $3 Trillion in spending has gotten the better of you Breeze Wood.

Breeze Wood, in case you ran away from it the first time here it is again - America has had over 9% unemployment for two years, again run to the Democrat's Lies, they will help us.

Again Breeze Wood, just because you are responsible for the Nations Recession and the Immoral $ 3 Trillion in spending is no reason to think no one will listen to you - that's right, the Democratic Party is all Ears for LIARS of your type!

Democratic Party = Where people like Breeze Wood can feel like they are adults - when there is absolutely nothing else left for them!

Breeze is too scared to answer direct questions. Liars are like that.

 

Corwin, your Immoral Iraqi War (WMD) is the lie everyone is aware of. As well as your denial of the Republican Recession - at least someone has facts to point out about you where you have nothing.


Wisconsin may be the bell-weather for the 2012 elections. Grassroots are where elections are won and lost.

The Administration has a great deal to accomplish and the people of Wisconsin are that much more the wiser.

 

Corwin, there's no point putting out those facts, even as large and bold as they are, he just simply ignores them or just brings up the Iraqi war and the same broken record of republicans = evil. I only come here now for entertainment.

 

although there could be evil, there is something to be understood from it.

i think the separation of church and state is an issue for republicans.

it's more about right and wrong with state evaluations than good and evil from church evaluations but both both are considered with each other.

i think republicans weight good and evil more than right and wrong, and reform suffers from that. republicans use good and evil as a priority to put their foot down on things and do not reform or appropriately appreciate right and wrong if they are evil or are biased in favor of right and wrong if they are good. correct me if i'm wrong please.

 

I tend to avoid using generalisations of entire political parties and their base. I'd go as far to say the majority are disillusioned, but there are people who don't fit the usual image in every group. Ron Paul for example uses the R party because of the sad fact it's one of the big two and thus receives more attention and is a bigger platform.

I think parties should be scrapped and politicians be known just by their name and constituency. This would force more legitimate representation, in my opinion. We are too weak and susceptible to group-think and team psychology, which gets in the way of proper politics.

 

I was writing a post on this a little while ago but worked out myself that it would be almost impossible to do that. You need a complete plan to run an entire country, which is why they jump onto a party that already has the plan.

Here in Australia, once given power, we have to go and ask the Queen is the plan good enough (via our Governor General) and if she says yes then we take over. She has the power to say nup, try again, or nup, nother election required.

 

after posting this i wondered if republicans put there foot down on right and wrong and good and evil suffer from it?

well there is an imbalance from the republican stance that does not factor in reform, whatever it is.

after reading the post that i posted previously and quoted in this post i ask this question.....

is good wrong?

consider the post that i posted and switching the democrat or republican nouns and also consider from there.

is that the basis of the problems we are going though as of now? please comment about this.