Google SEO Is Ridiculous

Discussion in 'SEO' started by GeorgeB., Oct 29, 2006.

  1. stats

    stats Well-Known Member

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    #41
    I have same situation with my site. 2 months ago i started adding up optimized text on it (not just crap, but real text) and it got number 16-20 on my main keyword. I also started building reciprocal links at the same time. after a couple days of achiving that position of 16-20 my site disapeared from top 1000 on that keyword !!!

    i would argue hardly with anyone telling that ive put crappy text .. realy, that is a useful and genuine text describing each category of my site (it's a photograpy site with different categories in it).

    now the only thing i think of is the reciprocal links. I've tryed putting a disallow on link pages in robots.txt and waited about 2-3 weeks with that in place, still no luck .. right now i have lifted off that disallow and simply given up .. i really donno why did i deserve this but furthermore i also don't care already .. my site is a free resource and i have nothing from it but the hosting expenses .. so if google like it, then fine .. if not then F. it ..

    P.S. it still ranks #2 on Yahoo and #4 on MSN for my main keyword
     
    stats, Oct 30, 2006 IP
  2. Kaptain Kangaroo

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    #42
    I found this is working to redirect all URLs to http://www.website.com/:


    Does anyone see any problem with the code? Want to make sure it won't loop.
     
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  3. dcristo

    dcristo Illustrious Member

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    #43
    I couldn't have said it better. SEO/SEM's would be setting traffic targets, not ranking targets.

    Also, don't think the DMOZ listing will give you some super special weight benefit with Google, I haven't found that to be the case at all. It's just another good link.
     
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    #44
    A few things I noticed about the website were the following, which I think should be changed:

    1. Only 5 riddles on home page (Try to increase them and make the page more useful) As some one mentioned before, make sections for 'funny riddles', 'Jokes' etc on your site.

    2. Pop up on home page (Not sure, but I think you should remove it)

    3. External links on Home page (In the lower left corner of home page) Maybe it will be a good idea if you shift them to a 'links/resources' page

    4. No top / bottom navigation (You should work on improving the site navigation structure a little, maybe include a site map to the site also.

    I'm sure these slight changes will help you a little.
     
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  5. dcristo

    dcristo Illustrious Member

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    #45
    What are you trying to rank for? Is it "riddles"? If that's the case, no wonder you are having a hard time of it. Single word keyphrase with 12,000,000 results is a shitload of work. Those unrelated partner links can't be helping you as well.
     
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  6. Sem-Advance

    Sem-Advance Notable Member

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    #46
    Hi

    I don't know what youre on about here. Each of your URLs has it's own PR. You can usually see this by looking at the various URLs of the site or run them through checkpagerank.com

    Next nobody gives PR but Google... I cannot 'give PR.... that's a Google scoring'. I can and you can however, effect a sites PR, but none of us can give it a PR score...

    Let me explain a bit easier

    If 10 links point to www.domain.com

    and 10 links point to http://www.domain.com

    then half the proper PR is going to the first URL, and half of the proper PR is going to the second url.

    Relatively easy to understand and this is what causes PR dilution.

    Next Matt C is a google puppet and puts out a lot if mis-information as well as some useful information. If you doubt this go back and study his BD posts and you will find he initially said BD was a software & hardware update and later retracted that statement :rolleyes: I dont follow corporate mouthpieces / puppets all that much.

    As was alluded to earlier if they find people can easily rank sites it does not make the Googles SERPs very relevant or leads to spam, so it is in Googles best interest not to reveal anything that can truely help webmasters..

    Kaptain Kangaroo

    Here is what I have for making all inbound links point to your one main URL.

    The rewrite rule is used to force the use of a particular hostname, over other hostnames which may be used to reach the same site. For example, if you wish to force the use of www.yourwebsite.com instead of yourwebsite.com,


    # For sites running on a port other than 80
    RewriteCond %{HTTP_HOST} !^fully\.qualified\.domain\.name [NC]
    RewriteCond %{HTTP_HOST} !^$
    RewriteCond %{SERVER_PORT} !^80$
    RewriteRule ^/(.*) http://fully.qualified.domain.name:%{SERVER_PORT}/$1 [L,R]


    # And for a site running on port 80
    RewriteCond %{HTTP_HOST} !^fully\.qualified\.domain\.name [NC]
    RewriteCond %{HTTP_HOST} !^$
    RewriteRule ^/(.*) http://fully.qualified.domain.name/$1 [L,R]Hope this helps.
     
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  7. sarathy

    sarathy Peon

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    #47
    the failure to redirect from http://domain.com to www.domain.com is not causing him any problems, i think he is suffering from duplicate penality (not arising out of the redirect problems)
     
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  8. Sem-Advance

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    #48
    What redirect??? there is no redirect being discussed here.

    What is being discussed is 'PR dilution'(<---keyword term for you to research)
    Any PR dilution hurts your rankings in some form....

    The codes I supplied do not redirect a user what so ever.:confused:

    The fact you are selling signature links on the same c-class server shows you need to learn a bit more on how Google scores links as well.....though I guess you could imply it will drive traffic.....
     
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  9. sarathy

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    #49
    Hi sem, That was not a reply to your post., SOrry i dint put proper quotes, it was with respect to the redirection issue that was disccussed here.,

    Also his rank loss is not due to pr dilution., Its only because of the duplicate content penality that he suffers., A pr dilution will not Cause your entire site to go into supplemental., And thanks for asking me to research about pr dilution .,

    Further, iam not buying sig links for link building purpose, its only for the traffic iam buying those links :)

    And i dont sell my sig links
     
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    #50
    Very well no harm done :)

    I did misread the signature links.. I thought you were selling ..
     
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  11. sarathy

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    #52
    Actually depends what URL you use;

    if you do the absolute URL http://www.onlyriddles.com you get 2 results 1 supp

    if you do www.onlyriddles.com you get 63 results 203 supplementals

    http://onlyriddles.com shows nothing

    and your way which dumps the whole thing supplemental

    Got to love Google.
     
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    #53
    Just to clarify

    The code I posted will resolve all inbound links to your full URL and solidify your Google PR

    kkbiak appears to be giving 301 permanent redirect code and I am not sure why since the topic is not discussing renamed or moved pages...
     
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    #54
    I didn't give 301 redirect code in my first post above for redirecting from non-www to www--I only gave it later because it appeared to be what he was asking for

    incase you didn't see the first post:

     
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    #55
    Yes, I agree with some of the other people. Even though you don't change anything on your website. Google sees that you haven't been updating and stop caring for the website. Part of the SEO is to always keep the site fresh.

    Adding content is the king.
     
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    #56
    I add new riddles daily... When I started I had only 500
     
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  17. sarathy

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    #57
    i notice that,
    Most outdated (non updated) pages go into supplemental., G thinks it as irrelevant to the users.,
    Even that might be a reason for your pages to go into supplemental.,
     
    sarathy, Nov 15, 2006 IP
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    #58
    There are a ton of pages from EDU sites that havent been updated for years and yet you still find them ranking in the top 10.
     
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