Google SEO Is Ridiculous

Discussion in 'SEO' started by GeorgeB., Oct 29, 2006.

  1. adwordaffiliate

    adwordaffiliate Active Member

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    #21
    I would try & rank more for phrasings rather than concentrate on the single word keywords.

    No point trying to just rank for riddle if you're ranking at 53 currently. Stiff Competition.

    You're not really targeting anything special in your Title Tag, your on site copy doesn't really reference any keywords you're trying to target either.

    Due to a lack of on page copy you are limiting yourself to the amount of Keywords you can target per page.

    I've had sites rank number 1 then plummet to number 163 overnight. The rankings may come back eventually, or Google may be penalizing you. If it's the latter you should be thinking about alternate Keyword Strategies :)
     
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  2. Kaptain Kangaroo

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    #22
    Since you mentioned it here, do you mind to expand on how to do this or provide a link to a site that explains how to redirect all of them. I only have one snippet of code in my .htaccess to redirect http://website.com to http://www.website.com. I'm also seeing a difference in Google between http://www.website.com and http://www.website.com/ . Didn't think to check they should all be addressed.
     
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  3. primeryder

    primeryder Well-Known Member

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    #23
    Also try getting more deep links to your site and vary the anchor text. If google sees many links with the same anchor or title text, all pointing to the homepage with none or few deep links to subpages, that could look like a site that is trying to rise artificially. Deep links indicate rich interior content.
     
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  4. kkibak

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    #24
    You should use a 301 redirect to combine the www and non-www pages if they contain the same thing.

    edit the .htaccess file in the main directory to contain:

    ###### Redirect / to www ######
    RewriteCond %{HTTP_HOST} ^yoursite.com
    RewriteRule (.*) http://www.yoursite.com/$1 [R=301,L]
    RewriteRule ^$ index.php
    #########################

    you can of course replace index.php with whatever your index file is.
     
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  5. Kyle H.

    Kyle H. Active Member

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    #25
    My site got blasted from google today, completely gone. But it was only 7 days old.
     
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  6. Kaptain Kangaroo

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    #26
    kkibak - Thanks for including. I'm supposing this works for all variations listed above?

    This seems to be especially true with newer sites. On the other hand, older sites can get away with more links with same anchor text in short periods of time, in my experience.
     
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  7. kkibak

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    #27

    The code I posted above will direct all pages on a site that lack a www. to the www. version.
     
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  8. Kaptain Kangaroo

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    #28
    Are you searching just from your browser or have you checked other Google DataCenters?
     
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  9. sarathy

    sarathy Peon

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    #29
    SEO is nothing but adding features., Adding new features will get more inbound links.,

    Most of your pages has gone into supplemental., Try to find out why they have gone into supplemental.,

    I guess, Your actual content is less than the contents in the template., which have caused google to give your site a duplicate penality
    For example:
    http://www.onlyriddles.com/816/Featherless-Bird.html

    Try showing all our content pages without the default templates.,


    Remove popups

    There are several unrelated outbound links,

    Adding features.,
    For every riddle, add a comment box, rating box.,

    Add nested navigation.,

    For example for this thread
    http://www.onlyriddles.com/816/Featherless-Bird.html

    You can have the nesting like:
    Riggles > Featherless Bird


    YOu have the pagination done from 1 , 2 etc which shows the full riddles in that page itself, apart from that you have a seperate page for each riddle.,
    Either remove full riddle from showing in that page links itself or stop showing the riddle in their own page.,

    I would suggest you to stop showing full riddles in each page (ie.,http://www.onlyriddles.com/1/)., (this would affect user experience though) ., Just show the links in these pages which when clicked goes to the content page.,

    Your highly blended adsense ads above the riddle affects the user experience., most users will get confused between ads and the content, for example:
    http://www.onlyriddles.com/220/How-Many-Plums.html
    This is good on the income part but it just looks as if your site is a MFA site.

    SEO should not affect the user experience.,

    I dont think you should Not blame google for the lost rankings., Just tweak your site and focus on improving the user experience :)

    I think this thread should be movied to the reviews/seo section
     
    sarathy, Oct 29, 2006 IP
  10. Kaptain Kangaroo

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    #30
    Any way to redirect those with a / on the end or does that matter to Google?

    Scratch that, I made a mistake and was searching without the http://
     
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  11. kkibak

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    #31
    Sorry, not sure exactly what you mean. Could you give me an exact example? (e.g. point A to point B)
     
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    #32
    Just log into sitemaps & set the preferred domain.
     
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  13. Kaptain Kangaroo

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    #33
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    #34
    that would only work for google though :(
     
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    #35
    well thats google for you I guess, always bvery ironic.
     
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    #36
    When you give a site PR Google does not actually take it away from your site just check Matt Cutt's blog the only way you loose PR is if your backlink count goes down, the number of links you link is on increases, or if the PR of the page your link is on looses PR itself.
     
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  17. GeorgeB.

    GeorgeB. Notable Member

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    #37
    Very solid advice here. I plan to follow some of it.

    2 things...

    1) For those of you that said it's because my content doesn't update have you seen the front page? The content changes on every load hence every bot visit.

    2) You guys that are giving me advice to get to page one missed the fact that I was already on page one. I ranked #8 for keyword riddles. Then suddenly I'm 59. I dropped about 3 weeks ago and haven't recovered since.
     
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  18. Kaptain Kangaroo

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    #38
    I had a test site that fed rss feeds to bots, updated every 15 minutes. Over 3000 pages that were indexed. Ranked well for about three weeks then went to supplemental hell. Made several hundred with affiliates. Then made pennies after supplementals. I just trashed the site and started fresh. My guess is maybe cache your results for longer period, but that's just the blackhat in me telling you that.:D
     
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    #39
    That is strange. You didn't add any new links to the site? The only thing I can think of then is that it must have been a slight tweak to the algo that happened to affect your site negatively.

    I would also look carefully at my previously existing outbound links.. it could also be possible that you're linking to a site that, for example, was recently penalized or did something 'shady' and this is damaging your 'trust rank.'
     
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  20. Kaptain Kangaroo

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    #40
    kkibak - I can't get the index.html to redirect to .com address with the code above. Is that supposed to redirect the index.html to the .com?
     
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