So, with guy's like you in charge, humankind won't even make it off this planet. You accept this? Mad Max suddenly seems prophetic!
Are you suggesting that when the aliens land at taco bell, they actually take people off this planet? I thought they were just interested in the nachos supreme
If the liberals get their way and let Islam win against the west... your damn straight it will be prophetic. what really amuses me is that, if the Libs do get their way, Islam takes over the US and the UK and Paris... well, then the Muslims thereby control all the nukes. considering how evil Islam is with a rock and an AK-47, Mad Max scenario seems like a walk in the park.
You really fear other religions dont you? Starting to get the sense that for the first time you might not be the majority? Feeling threatened?
I'm no fan of the idea of Islamic rule, nor do I relish the thought of any religious group as the ruling class. I think the gov't, regardless of what they call themselves, should begin planning on colonizing other planets, building some serious space stations and propelling us into the future. If this belief warrants me a tinfoil hat, fine. I just want humanity to last, evolve and grow..spread it's parasitic limbs across the cosmos. Hoohaha.. I guess if the U.S fails we can always rely on the Chinese...
I'm feeling anxious! I must admit, I'm terribly nervous. Not because I'm worried about not being in the majority though. I've been worrying, trying to figure out who will be the first one with a boo hooing sob story about how the elections were stolen again, how voting machines were rigged, how the black vote doesn't count, how so many Americans could be so dumb (because liberals are above ordinary people), how there is no hope left, how the world will come to and end, how they are moving out of the country. I'm worried about angry liberals who have no morals and values that might take the loss out on family members LinkSales, who do you think will be the first to make a self-loathing post with their hand out for some kleenex?
nothing wrong with that. Listen, I truly believe that all (save for the Islamic Extremists) want nothing more than to see others happy and successful. We all want to smile We all laugh We all have hopes and fears We all dream of the best for our children and strive to ensure a better tomorow for them. These are basic human tenets, am I correct? The problem arises (as best as I can tell) when others feel the need to dictate their personal beliefs onto others (sharia, as an example, or comic strips causing riots in nations 10K miles away, dictating a new policy onto unrelated peoples). While Liberals and Conservatives "spar" over abortion or gay marriage or who should be president, we, as a "western" philosophically inclined people, agree in the above basic humanity of each other. But, to me and in the way I see things.. while conservatives see (and rightfully so) a threat to "our way of life" and the liberal dogma appears (to us) to be "well, lets change to make them happy or turn a blind eye to their deeds of evil", well.. this is a problem. hopefully some day we can find a nice and polite way of rectifying these differences. But sadly, until politicians set the example and begin acting like the Gentlemen they are supposed to be.. the bickering and "near hatred" for opposing political beliefs will grow. and in that way, we've most likely already lost alot more than we have gained.
Decent words, though it seems to me the "left" has more practical views for the continued survival of our system, species and freedoms. Frankly...things like this "patriot act" freak me out. The "right" seems to have more strengths in the ..er.. war department.
I dont know if they have more practical views. I think, for the most part, we all have the same betterment of humanity viewpoint. 1) we all want to see free people the world over 2) we all want everyone to have a job they enjoy 3) everyone should be able to think and feel as they please 4) no one should ever impose their religious or moral beliefs onto another 5) so long as it doesn't hurt another, it shouldnt be illegal (with obvious limits) etc. but we do have different paths to get there. However, I would be remiss not to say that.. no matter who we choose to drive the car.. we will still ultimately get there.
As long as these ideals are upheld, I find myself unconcerned whether there is conspiricy or not...but I think the world concern for "peons" around the globe is that we do not want the U.S to carpet bomb us because they do not agree withour gov't. Send in the covert ops, like they do in American film. Building a better bomb is a sickening practice...I believe too much money is channeled into this.
Well we don't carpet bomb indiscriminatly. You'd be well to do to remember the stopping of the genocide AGAINST muslims in Europe, a war initiated and led by the USA when all the eurotrash deemed the Muslims unworthy of saving. You say carpet bombing like it's something we do on a weekly basis on undeserving peoples. True, we do use it in a war, but how often is that? Afghanistan, against the taliban.. and any right thinking person would say the taliban HAD to go. Anyone who treats it's people in said manner deserves a slow and painful death. I'm personally more concerned with the internal fighting amongst Muslims like in Darfur/Sudan, Chechnya, the new war brewing in the Balkins by Muslim seperatists, the enslavement of peoples in virtually every muslim nation. And yet, people decry the USA.. I dunno, the hypocracy of it all really drives me mad
Gtech, I really do want to have an honest discussion with you. This isn't a joke, nor should it be taken lightly. I'm disgusted that you would say that liberals have no values. Both the religious and non-religious, liberals and conservatives alike can agree that following most of the ten commandments, at least those regarding morals and not so much religion, can lead to a good, moral life. If you were to take the commandments (I'm going to use the catholic/lutheran/new church ones since those are the ones I am most familiar) I would succeed in following all but the first, second and third which are: I am the LORD your God, who brought you out of Egypt, out of the land of slavery. You shall have no other gods before Me. You shall not make for yourself any graven image (idol)... Thou shalt not take the name of the LORD thy God in vain... Remember the Sabbath day, and keep it holy... I'm a perfectly moral person, I just don't observe a religion. I don't think that I should have to be a religious person to be a good person. Its sad that someone can do everything that is considered immoral then pray for forgiveness and be forgiven. But if I lead a moral life without religion, I am told that I go to hell. I can't tell you on how many occasions someone who is religious has told me that I will be going to their religion's hell even though I have probably lived a more moral life. We can talk politics all day long and we will probably disagree on almost everything but lets leave morals out of it. EVERYONE wants to live an honest life.
Let's review what I said, that I believe you take issue with: To take issue, you would have to presume that there are angry liberals who do not have morals or values. I did not use "all" to describe such. Having spent time on large liberal sites, including the likes of Koz and DU, it's clearly safe to say there are a lot of angry liberals and I would certainly say many do not have values. They are not for anything, just simply against everything. If you've spent any time on sites like I mentioned, you would more than likely agree with what I'm saying. My comments didn't address religion. Nor did I suggest you were not moral personally. We can take another member here, Northpointaiki. I know he is not religious, he has stated so numerous times. I also know he has high morals and values, as it's reflected in his posts. He is also a liberal. I have a great deal of respect for him. Have you ever read his posts? He makes an even an old conservative like myself stop and think. I submit that if we had more liberals like him, I'd surely not think the word liberal was an insult. However, I see what a great deal of liberals on a whole do every day. Their message on the internet is clear. Everything I noted in the response you take issue with, is something that is typical from today's liberals. Humans are in no position to note who will go to hell. There's only one judger, in Christianity, who will determine such. I've never had anyone tell me I'm going to hell. I have had people tell me to go to hell. Doesn't bother me, one way or another. I think we'd all like to believe that. But we don't live in a perfect world. Morals play a big part of how one conducts themselves in life. It's easy to see when someone has a lack of home training and/or has a lack of morals. Of course, that's always subjective. I believe everything I originally noted and have seen those very things countless times.
Thats just someone who can't agree with society. They shouldn't be stamped as a liberal just because they can't agree with anyone. A liberal in this case: favorable to or in accord with concepts of maximum individual freedom possible, esp. as guaranteed by law and secured by governmental protection of civil liberties. Liberals seek more freedoms, not to disagree.
Thats sounds like a Libertarian. Liberals theoretically should be for freedoms, but I never see it, nor do I feel more free when they are in power. I feel more oppressed by having their special interests forced down my throat and even more so when my pocket is picked in order to fund the religion of liberalism.