Please do the right thing on Nov 7 and again in 2008 - Get Out and Vote!

Yes, all things being equal, higher taxes will reduce the debt. But, in reality, all things are not equal. When you raise taxes, you do not necessarily get a higher stream of revenue from that higher tax. The rub is that when government raises taxes, it always raises spending alongside of them. If you could show me a time when raising taxes led to a lower debt, it'd be nice. Lower deficits and debt are always tied to a better functioning economy. Lower taxes are also tied to a better functionine economy.

Reducing spending is the only rational way to lower the debt in the long run. You cannot keep raising taxes and expect no negative side effects.

 

I love it... People don't trust the govt, say all sorts of nasty things about it.. but then insist on trusting them with their money.

duplicity at it's finest.

 

That's kinda my question. Simply getting out and voting is not enough.

You need to get out and vote in an INFORMED manner for the individual that will most likely end this madness, and then, have the conviction necessary to get rid of that individual if they do NOT carry out the mandate of the people.

Apathy in this country (and yes, I'm an American) is at an all time high. The masses are being led by the minority who have a pecuniary interest in war.

 

See, I see things differently. To me, it appears the Majority (the right wing and centrists) are being held hostage by the liberal spin agenda pushing gay marriage, removing Christianity, endorsing Islam, pressing for higher taxes, pushing to allow the Islamic extremists win the GWoT..etc.

Why should we allow the leftist agenda to hold us hostage to their misguided attempts at a psuedo logic?

 

I'm going to repeat that the way to decrease national debt is to reduce gov. spending and/or increase taxation.

This is a no-brainer if you know anything about economics. And to ask for example of when higher taxes led to lower debt just shows you lack of knowledge on this issue.

I dont think you even know what national debt is:

US National debt is the amount of money owed by the United States federal government to creditors who hold US Debt Instruments. This does not include the money owed by states, corporations, or individuals, nor does it include the money owed to Social Security beneficiaries in the future.​

from wiki

An example of when a Government used higher taxation to reduce nationcal debt: Bill Clinton 1993-2001 USA

After numerous reports revealed that the federal budget deficit would be far greater than expected, Clinton quickly made cutting the deficit a high priority. Clinton submitted a budget that would cut the deficit by $500 billion over five years by reducing $255 billion of spending and raising taxes on the wealthiest 1.2% of Americans.[10] It also imposed a new energy tax on all Americans and subjected about a quarter of those receiving Social Security payments to higher taxes on their benefits.[11]​

National debt as a percentage of GDP fell during that period. And there will be tens of thousands of similar examples all over the world.

 

LOL, holy cow do you really believe that,

1) gay marriage ,for one gay marriage was pushed in few of the most liberal states, when the right wing found out they could exploit peoples homophobia, is when that started showing up on all sorts of ballet measures

2) removing christianity?, removing christianity from what? some atheist lawyer sues to remove some christian stuff from government, outside of that nobody really cares, and in fact religious stuff does not belong in governement

3) endoring islam? who endorses islam, like i said religion has no place in governemt

4)pressing for higher taxes, you might be right on that one, they have talked about raising taxes on people who make over 200k a year, now that effects me, but do a lot of you guys make over that?

5) pushing to allow the Islamic extremists? how because people think that it was stupid to go into Iraq? Because they think we should stick with the rights gaurenteed in constitution?

Please explain why you think those things

 

Hmm, why didn't conservatives think about this before Iraq. And now Iran?

 

Depends on your view. I'd say going after terrorists is certainly taking care of our backyard. Apparently these people did too, but when things got tough, wanted to cut and run.

 

You're views are way out there, apparently you have an issue with EQUAL RIGHTS.

Gay people are people too. They deserve the right to be married just as much as someone who is straight.

When religion is pushed into government we have holy wars. See the current world situation.

No one endorses Islam, I will defend it though. There is no need to say that Islam is the source of all pain and suffering. Its not just Islam, its religion in general.

Higher taxes and lower spending cures government debt.

 

Maybe I worried about my own backyard last week and have now moved on to pretending to care about yours this week.

This complies with your rules I hope.

 

And "liberating" Iraq is taking care of our backyard too?

 

Honesty. That's refreshing.

 

According to liberal democrats it was.

Who will you be voting for?

 

I just voted at home today! I may be the only one in America that didn't know this, but this year I discovered you can do your ballot by mail. You send in for it, get it and fill it out and then send it back. I really like it because I didn't feel rushed. I could read over all the props carefully and take as much time as I needed, so my voting for Nov.7 is complete

 

Tell your friends and family to do the same!

 

Yeah, I saw a commercial for John Kyl (US Rep senator) saying basically don't vote for Jim Pederson (US Dem senator) because he won't stay the course in Iraq. I wondered how effective that ad was because many people don't want to stay the course in Iraq. Then, there is the commercial for Rick Boyer for corporation commissioner in Arizona...I thought that one was just kind of annoying because his whole commercial was done sitting on a horse, wearing a cowboy hat and being a good ole boy. Kinda gotz on my nerves cuz we ain't no hillbillies out here, we is just like other folks!

 

Pederson's entire campaign is that he's new. "Anybody but Bush" didn't work in 2004. I don't know why the democrats keep using that tactic. I have yet to hear what his "new" ideas are.

I have a feeling that his change is just reverting back to the Pre W era where our government pays blackmail to our enemies and hopes they won't attack.

 

I've had that feeling about you for some time now.

No it does not. At least not in the US. It's never worked at any point in our history.

 

You are wrong. Your Gov. is about to experiance a spike in gov. spending because of the babyboomers entering retirement age. Taxes will rise, and the will rise to reduce the debt burden.