Prophecy

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  1. IsraeI

    IsraeI Peon

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    #21
    It has..he didn't have many followers back then..now he has 1.5 billion, and this number continues to increase.

    Want to know about another prophecy of his?

    "This affair (Islam) will reach what is reached by the night and the day; and Allaah will not leave a dwelling of brick, nor fur, except that Allaah will cause this religion to enter it - bringing honour or humiliation. Honour which Allaah gives to Islaam and humiliation which Allaah will give to disbelief." 

    This prophecy is not 100% fulfilled, but statistics show that it is heading that way.  

    Why is this "madman" always right?

    Islam will prevail wether you like it or not. 
     
     
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    #22
    My prophecy is if IsreaI keeps up this level of questioning he will reach reality by himself...

    Why is it people are too afraid to believe in themselves and feel the need to reinforce their belief with such silly arguments such as this?

    Are you trying to recruit people into becoming Muslim Israel? What's the point of this thread if only to bring ridicule upon yourself and people who hold similar beliefs? How is this ridiculous argument proof of anything?

    It makes me ask again, how does one get stuck on believing everything in a particular book is the one and only gospel to go by when everyone of us is different?

    Is it the fact you asked it a question, flipped open the page and found the answer? Why do we need Mo or Jesus in our lives today?
     
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  3. IsraeI

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    #23
    I'm doing something known as "establishing the proofs" against you, so that you will have no excuse on the last day.
     
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    #24

    Hahaha, that made my day, you're a funny man israei, you sure are.
     
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    #25
    Waw! its a great post have huge sentence of Islam. You are really successful to combine the present civilization with the thousand years before prediction of Islam.
     
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    #26
    No, I believe all you are doing is bringing your religion into disrepute even further. It is such a childish argument you are putting across as 'proof' Mo was clever. I don't believe that your arguments are bringing more people to your fold and indeed will be turning them away.

    It's like saying your book says the world will end when dead cows travel through golden arches and then using McDonalds as the proof he was right.
     
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  7. IsraeI

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    #27
    You are a classic example of someone in denial.

    At least say that it was a coincidence.
     
    As for "this doesn't bring more people into your fold".. this is not my concern, my concern is to establish the proofs, so any one who sees the proof has no excuse on the day of judgement.
     
    This is just too lame to give a formal reply to.
     
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    #28
    No. Sorry, I don't believe in coincidences - we create these ourselves to suit our mood. (I went to KFC & You went to Red Rooster - Coincidence? or did we just both feel like take-away that night) Scary ? I went & got petrol for my car and met a man who also needs petrol for his car, who also knows my cousin - coincidence?

    Now, as a lowly camel farmer, if I read in a book that "prophecy" and I believe in it with all of my heart - well that tells me "hey i'm a farmer of black camels, what a great idea. I should be looking at doing that..."

    So it's not like it came out of nowhere. These people have been told to do this (in your prophecy) for 1400 years. If I believed in my book enough and wanted the prophecy fulfilled I would have sold my camels & started building them 1350 years ago. What took them so long to put 2 & 2 together?

    So when I do start doing that, even if it's just to fulfil the prophecy, is that coincidence or as per instructions ?

    You chose Dubai, the country that's spending everything it has on tourism. It has 3 or 4 years of oil left and then has nothing to go forward with. These things are being built now so they will still have a country in 10 years (built on tourism). To then turn around and use them as "prophecy fulfilled" is childish IMHO.

    It would be like putting out a book on carpentry and then being surprised when someone builds a table.
     
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    #29
    You mean you'd like it to not be about the other prophecy that is obviously bullshit. It may be convenient for you to select which bits to quote, but nobody is going to let you get away with it on here. I think your god should be able to stand up to scrutiny, shouldn't he? Or is he as pathetic as his followers and his pedophile rapist prophet mohammad? 
     
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  10. IsraeI

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    #30
    No those are not coincidences. You deliberately decided to do those things. As for the camel riders, these were poor people as I said, there was no way of knowing that they would get money to build high buildings to compete with others, they are camel herders for a reason.
     
    He has no hope of doing that, you should know what environment they lived in, they think of finding water instead of thinking to building anything.

    Also, you are assuming that these builders are religious, they don't have to be religious, there is no evidence they read this prophecy.

    Let's take the Kingdom Tower that is going to be built soon for instance, it will be invested in by a group headed by Prince Waleed Bin Talal, this guy also owns a stake in the biased Islamophobic Fox News channel, from this we can see he is not that religious, he is not interested in trying to fulfill prophecy, he is probably interested in showing off his worlds tallest building.  

    You are that person who always asks "what if" "what if this" and "what if that., you make loads of assumptions and make a conclusion based on it.

    How do you know they have been told this, you are making an assumption, we need facts not assumptions.

    In your opinion there is never a prophecy, because people will strive to full-fill a prophecy themselves when they are told about one, don't be ridiculous. 

    The prophecy does not give you instructions..got it? It doesn't tell you to go compete with others.
     
    The prophecy started unfolding some time ago, it continues to intensify. You can call something childish and put "IMHO" next to it all you like, it doesn't make you right.

    And yes we will look back in the future and say this prophecy was fulfilled, it will be added to the big list of prophecies that have been fulfilled.

    There are prophecies that were fulfilled, then you have those that are unfolding, and those which are still to come.
       
    So the books of Hadeeth are books telling you how to build tall structures, and we should not be surprised when someone reads these books and uses them to build a tall structure?

    You have just made it clear that you have no clue what you are talking about.
     
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    #31
    I don't want to be rude so I won't follow this lead. I have comebacks for each of yours but not the inclination to bother. You opened my eyes to how people will avoid facts or use infantile arguments in order to make their case so you are good for something. If only to remind people how silly your argument just has to be in order to follow your religion.

    I thank God daily that more and more people are turning away from a particular religion and following their own paths. That shows me the world is getting smarter, or is that a coincidence? :)

    Maybe it's you turning them away.
     
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  12. IsraeI

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    #32
    Isn't (according to you) everyone God? Are you thanking yourself?:D  
     
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    #33
    Yes. I am a "PART" of God, just as you are. TOGETHER all of life combines and this is THE Almighty God. I pray to Almighty God every time I open my mouth and often, without opening my mouth.
     
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    #34
    You are entitled to your belief even though it has no basis.
     
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    #35
    Thanks. That exactly why I write IMHO when I make a comment, to stress this is MY opinion only and you can do with it what you will.
     
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    #36
    The other prophecy is off-topic..but since you asked so nicely, it may refer to times where a mother gives birth to a child, and the child enslaves the mother by ordering her around, the child becomes the master, I've seen plenty of children like that and it's quite common these days, in the past however children showed respect to their parents. Today there is no respect, a 9 year old can easily tell his mother to go buy her an ipad and he will get it with ease, if he doesn't get what he desires he will scream and cry till his mom gets him one.

    So if this prophecy is about this then it has come true, which means Muhammad صلى الله عليه وسلم‎ was not a liar, and everything else he says is the truth.
     
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    #37
    heeeeey now thats not true!!!!!!!! WTF? he was not a "prophet" LOL


    also black dromedary camels were used by the rich persians because they were very rare...the white dromedaries were viewed upon as "common folk mules" even though the white dromedaries are much more resilient to heat and loss of fluid...contrary to popular belief camels were not widely used by the Egyptians until the later dynasties...not to be confused with asain bactrain camels who have darker fur...these are more common in the rocky mountain regions and are not suited for the dessert...I lived in Lybia and Egypt I love camels :)  

    and it was Imhotep who started the "competition" to build tall structures like 2600BC with the step pyramid (worlds first tall man made structure ever) and everybody else in the region followed suit...this is waaaaaaaaaay before islam

    some prophecy: "rich people will want special transport to stand out in the crowd and will compete in building bigger cribs" ppppfffffffffffffffffffffffffffft! 

     
     
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    #38
    Irrelevant.   


       
    If you haven't figured it out, "the shepherds of black camels" refers to the Arabs, not anyone else.  

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    The Prophet صلى الله عليه وسلم‎ used "shepherds of black camels" in a symbolic way to refer to the Arabs who at that time were not capable of anything of this sort.

    Hilarious how you pretend to be an expert though.
     
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    #39
    I'm still laughing... now that was funny!!
     
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    #40
    According to you, he was not a prophet, he was God, right:)? :D    
     
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