Wrong.. Again, your analogy does not work. "Self-defense, self-defence (see spelling differences) or private defence is a countermeasure that involves defending oneself, one's property or the well-being of another from physical harm." Source wikipedia.
The problem is that you don´t know what you believe. Zionism includes many diverse ideas and groups that believe in existence of Israel as country but on many other crucial points contradicts each other. You can be a Zionist that believes in democracy and you can be a Zionist that is a fascist. Don´t you think it is better that you define what you believe in before declaring you are a Zionist? In the beginning Israel was dreamed by left wing democratic Zionist while today the country is run by fascist part of Zionism movement who believe in Jews supremacy and denying rights to inferior race and cultures.
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The argument that "we need our homeland back because everyone hates us" is a fraud. Zionists make the argument that Israelites were in that region before Arabs using the bible as proof, therefore they have the right to this land, therefore all Israelites can go there and re-claim it. But we see clearly from their own bible that Ishmael (the father of the Arabs) was the first son of Abraham. Ishmael the Arab was in that region first, Jacob the father of the Israelites was born later, so the Arabs have more right to this land than the Israelites (using their logic). The real reason Zionists took Palestine by force is because they feel their race is more superior, they are the "chosen people" as they say. They then go on to kill Palestinians, because they think their race is superior and everyone else is subhuman, the rest of the Palestinians are put in an open air prison and terrorised. It now becomes clear that Zionism and Nazism are pretty much the same thing. What Hitler did to the Jews, Zionists are doing it to Palestinians, and Anders Behring Brevik is inspired by all of this, and wants to kill minorities in Europe because he thinks he is more superior. “So let us fight together with Israel, with our Zionist brothers against all anti-Zionists, against all cultural Marxists/multiculturalists.†Anders Behring Brevik
You are paying for these problems while you could have used that money to pay for your bills. Instead of creating more jobs you give the fascist regime money for food, drink and weapons.
I'm not the first to make that analogy, so it's not exactly a Muslim idea. Some extremists go on to suggest that Hitler was a Jew (which he is), and helped create Israel by killing anti-Zionist Jews in the holocaust with the help of Zionist Jews, the anti-Zionists were the real victims. And Nazi is a shortened term for National Zionist. But I don't believe in that.
So, from any thread's topic you're very quick to go back to the only topic that matter to you: fucking israel and palestine. Nothing else matters.. Why do you bother so much about this shitty piece of land? If it wasn't for some dumb myths, then why would this piece of land would matter so much to you guys? Why not some places in south america instead? Or in the north pole? Grow up people, those topics are really for babies and retarded, the only ones who can believe in myths and transform any topic into a discussion about israel and palestine, about jews and muslims. Come on, nuke them all if it takes that for you to forget about the whole argument.
Your are missing the point, I had to give some background information to teach what Zionism really is. It's not irrelevant because your friend is influenced by it, it had to be pointed out. How's your campaign to murder politicians and journalists coming along? Any success yet?
... and that's sure working well for Norway, eh? If the Norwegian government had even a few brain cells it'd encourage more to buy and carry firearms to stop this from happening again. I bet if one person had a pistol that day his kill count would have been dramatically lower.
Agreed on that point but disagree with the rest. No matter what you do, you can't avoid a madman with an agenda. Handing guns out willy nilly to every man and his dog is wrong and unfair to the millions of innocents killed by them. If someone's hellbent on killing you, you're most likely dead. How many people have been saved by not having so many guns in the community is the real question? Overall I think they're (& we're) better off without them.