Obama Adminstration Selling Guns to Mexican Drug Lords? REALLY???

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by Corwin, Jun 22, 2011.

  1. Rebecca

    Rebecca Prominent Member

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    #81
    Don't you ever get tired of lying? You claimed it as fact that "Obama's Attorney General Eric Holder not only knew, but he lied to Congress in May when asked about it!" Knowing your track record, I simply asked you for a credible source.

    I'm not even defending Holder, but am interested in the truth (unlike you). Do you know Project Gunrunner started in 2005? The speech indicates they are adding personnel along the border as part of Project Gunrunner. The speech was before Operation Fast & Furious even began. To say the mentioning of "Project Gunrunner" in the Apr 09 speech proves he knew they were allowing weapons to walk in an operation that hadn't even started, is idiotic at best.
     
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  2. Breeze Wood

    Breeze Wood Peon

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    #82
    A proven lier (besides Corwin) is the previous Administration et. al. - George Bush and the Deliberate Lie of WMD (weapons of mass destruction) that was used to engage the United States into a meaningless and unprovoked war that is primarily responsible for the deepest Recession since the Great Depression.

    Now really Corwin, if you have such a concern for Truth and Justice who more deserves the weight of Justice and a proper Sentencing - President: George Bush or Attorney General: Eric Holder? - that is, if you had any Integrity.
     
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  3. Corwin

    Corwin Well-Known Member

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    #83
    Rebecca, don't you ever get tired of lying over and over again? I gave you a credible source -the Washington Examiner - Holder Lied to Congress.


    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!


    Rebecca, get a grip. Read up. Gunrunner was the original name of the project. But in September 2009 Holder extended and renamed Fast and Furious. It had the same personnel, same management, same operations. The change was that, when it was called Gunrunner, the intent was to DENY guns from going to Mexican Cartels. The program was renamed Fast and Furious when it's intent was turned 180º to ENCOURAGE GUN SALES to Mexican cartels and allow the guns to enter Mexico.

    Holder knew about Gunrunner. He had to know that Gunrunner had changed. He had to sign off on the mission change and renaming it Fast and Furious. He had to sign off on it.

    I think even you will agree that you can't have one program to discourage gun sales, and another program to encourage gun sales. It was under the same program management.

    Holder knew.

    Now, stop lying, Rebecca. Do your research and stop behaving like a child.
     
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  4. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #84
    I've yet to see Corwin lie here. His posts are generally backed with supporting evidence and facts.
    The administration that "lied" (assuming they were actually lies) about WMD's was the Clinton administration. Perhaps you're just not old enough to remember that fact. Any information and justification used was the product of the previous previous administration.

    I think you should check your facts before making accusations.
     
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  5. Breeze Wood

    Breeze Wood Peon

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    #85

    Nothing new Corwin - there has been no lie - the news worthiness of the story is purely fictional.
     
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  6. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #86
    I don't think Corwin was referring to the story as much as he was referring to the fact that the story refers to Holder's own words in a speech anyone can find and listen to or read in which Holder says the opposite of what he testified under oath to Congress.

    Breeze, please tell me you just smoke a lot of dope? I'd hate to think you are just that dense.
     
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    #87

    You also have nothing to add to a fictitious news event.
     
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  8. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #88
    If a tree falls in the woods....
     
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  9. Breeze Wood

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    #89
    Real trees do fall in the woods.

    Fast and Furious, and Gunrunner are two different programs.

    No link exists to date between Fast and Furious and the Justice Dept. nor has Holder denied a link may not have been possible.
     
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  10. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #90
    You're one confused young man.
     
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  11. Breeze Wood

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    #91
    No, you live in the fictitious world of false allegations.



    The latest pandering for a meritless wast of time.
     
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  12. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #92
    You're losing it.. ;)
     
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  13. Breeze Wood

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    #93
    You have nothing of substantiation to offer other than your childish irrelevancy.
     
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    #94
    it selling it for some profit.
     
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  15. Corwin

    Corwin Well-Known Member

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    #95
    O.K., I'll bite - Breeze, PROVE IT!

    But before you do, read this CNN transcript: Gunrunner and Fast & Furious are the same program. Notice how the ATF agents use "Gunrunner" and "Fast and Furious" interchangeably. As in "How the gun that killed Agent Terry got into Mexico was part of a program run by the ATF called Operation Gunrunner or Fast and Furious. The plan? Monitor the illegal guns crossing the border, link them to drug cartel leaders, then somehow arrest some of the most dangerous men in Mexico."

    Breeze, you make it toooo easy. You tool.
     
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  16. Breeze Wood

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    #96



    Neither you nor Mia have given proof contrary to the above and have no issue. Rather stupid if they have two different names to be the same operation, You bucket.
     
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  17. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #97
    He just provided you with it.
     
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  18. Rebecca

    Rebecca Prominent Member

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    #98
    @Corwin

    You're a pathological liar. You came on here and said it had been proven that Holder lied to Congress about his knowledge of Operation Fast and Furious. You lied. It has not been proven. It's as simple as that. When I asked for proof, you post an article saying he had to know because he mentioned Project Gunrunner in a speech back in 2009. Not proof. Do you know how to Google? I don't have time for this crap, I don't even care about Holder (and what he did or did not know) - but, it gets on my nerves that you obviously have such a difficult time telling the truth. Here, I Googled for you...

    There's Still No Evidence That Eric Holder Knew About Operation Fast and Furious

    Different ATF Programs Have Different Names
     
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  19. Breeze Wood

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    #99

    The credibility of Mia and Corwin can be equated to the movie Dumb and Dumber, the Three Stooges minus one.
     
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  20. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #100
    None of the aforementioned characters lied like you breeze. None of them ever made things up to illustrate a point. All simply spoke their minds and just told it like it is.

    Thanks for the validation again!
     
    Mia, Jul 28, 2011 IP