Worrying about something doesn't get you anywhere. We should all know by now that "freedom" and "democracy" comes with a price. All forms of Government do.. unless of course, you take Government away They'd be no genocides and populations macroscopically would be at less danger if we governed ourselves, or at least had a council of leaders elected. That would be cool. You wouldn't be saying that mate if it was your son/daughter who died fighting for this victory. Thought I'd share with you a classic quote that cracks me up: rofl. Those darn Londoners have more of the force of B.B. than up here
Yuppers lmfao It's one of the classic quotes of our time It's in this clip here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PV-Zy3nVPFI "I think people should give up their liberty for freedom" is her exact quote. Oh lordy, it makes me laugh every time I see it.
I guess I phrased that wrong. He just ignores the constitution. http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2006/04/30/bush_challenges_hundreds_of_laws/ He just gets laws passed that infringe on what used to be freedoms.
lol yeah that's the one ^_^ Pffff.. just our luck that the American guy chooses such a fine Chav specimen to represent a lot of our English people's views
You cannot win a war against a concept. The War on Terror is an infinite cause with a bottomless buget and strain. There is no declaration of war against Iraq or Afghanistan ... hence, no end-state, date or goal firmly identified. There is no victory to be had in a country where you have no war. There is no victory to be had against a spatial concept. To achieve victory, you have to establish objectives, goals and milestones; you meet these objectives and work toward timely milestones. But we'll get wrapped around discussions of timelines, cut-and-run attitudes, and pointless crap, while objectives and momentum fail. Victory?
The iraqi war isnt serving my country. Conservatives call this war a "liberation" of Iraq. Even if we are there to liberate, its not going to be my life to pay for someone else's freedoms. Had Kerry been elected, we wouldn't be in Iraq.
It's not that winning is "so important" as Losing would be disasterous. Something the clueless dont understand is that, winning strikes a deep blow and fear of knowledge that we are unbeatable. Someone here yesterday posted "2 buildings; 2 countries.", truerer words can't be spoken.. the psychological impact that must have is profound in letting the enemy know the cost for an attack is just "too high" for them to consider (unless you're attacking cowards like spain or france). It's the Swordfish mentality..and it works, regardless of the clueless admitting to it or not. They argue that Iraq causes peoples to join the jihad against the west... but if somehow we lost, imagine what that would do for the enemies recruitment campaign.
How can the coaltion forces ever "win" in Iraq? It's getting worse all the time out there. http://www.lewrockwell.com/orig5/lorentz1.html This was written over 2 years ago and is amazingly accurate. How would you feel if you had thousands of heavily armed foreign troops in your country killing thousands of your civillians? I guess that you would be pretty pissed off.
well you mean to say: "How would you feel if thousands of foreign terrorists from saudi arabia (et al) were killing my civilians" I know you didn't mean to misrepresent the truth cause, you being a liberal are so concerned with truth right? So tell me, how does it make you feel knowing all those foreign terrorists in Iraq killing all those civilians?
Yeah, a lot of people felt that way about liberating Europe from the Nazi's. I guess leaving the Nazi's in power and minding our own business never would have never affected my life. Nope, the world would be a much better place leaving evil in power. No, but we would be paying 50 cents more a gallon for gas. And we would all be praising alhla every chance we got.
The only victory to be had from the invasion of Iraq is for the voilence to slow down and Iraq given the chance to establish its own functioning society and governence without 130,000 troops trying to enforce freedom using bullets and bombs. WE should assist with rebuilding the infrastucture we have destroyed and leave the rest to them.
Thousands eh? Less than 5% of the fighters in Iraq are foreign. That means 95%+ are native iraqis... guess that busts your bubble
I'm quick to defend conservatives when it comes to gasoline. The markets are dictated by supply and demand, gas trades freely on several exchanges globally. I have NO problem with the whole "gouging" issue. People seem to have a problem with "price gouging" yet are members of unions which look to keep the wages of labor up. Who cares what religion is practiced? They're all wrong.
Except, of course, if we were to pull out those 130,000 peace keepers, all hell would break loose with Al Qaeda and Iran fighting over control of Iraq.
Wonder how many people know that there are still, and have been since the 50's 40,000 troops in South Korea... Ever wonder why? Had the same been done in Vietnam, it would be a different world over there.