Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints (FLDS)

Through modern revelation God makes known to the prophet and our apostles what he wants His church to do or not do. We don't just "change His word" to adjust it for law in the USA - In fact, God tells us to "obey the laws of the land" - and he makes way for His church to be able to do that.

 

I didn't mean a spelling error

What did I say that was incorrect about the temple weddings?

 

Nothing, from what I recall. You asked if I had seen one but you never really said anything about them....

 

So do you mean that God actually contacted your prophet and aspstles during the last few years and told them:

"Do you remeber that I told you before that you should marry many woman? Well, I was wrong before and didn't know any better but after studing USA criminal laws, I undrestand that I was wrong and the congress has higher wisdom than me, so don't practice polygamy any more."

Shouldn't the law of God be higher than the law of the land? Do you mean if you were in Nazi Germany, you would kill Jews because that was the law of the land?

 

Nope. Here's what REALLY happened (instead of your speculation):

http://www.mormon.org/question/faq/category/answer/0,9777,1601-1-114-1,00.html

God has not told us to do anything illegal.

Mormon soldiers of the Nazi regime were instructed to, in fact, follow orders given by their commanders. They followed them out with obedience and their commanders will have been punished for the crimes against humanity, or whoever was responsible.

 

Do you mean that somewhere between 1830 and 1890 God changed his/her mind and discovered that he/she needs to improve the commands? How do you know that Woodruff revelation was from God and not Devil and what happens if the next president get a revelation from God that everything that you have practiced until now was just BS and a joke and you don't need to practice it anymore?

Isn't some religious laws that forbids killing the innocents, so how do you combine that with obeying order and committing war crimes?

 

As I said in the first post of this topic, FLDS are not to be confused with Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints.

Be respectful and don't make judgemental, unresearched comments.

 

No.... I never said that... just because He gives a command then revokes it later doesn't mean it was wrong.

Because prophets are chosen by God and God would not choose somebody that listens to Satan.... not that difficult to understand. I suppose if you want to get paranoid, we could just call it FAITH and you can not believe it all you want because that's what it's all about anyway.

Then nothing would be exist. God would never swear. He wouldn't call his whole church a joke. Your questions are just getting ridiculous. I don't get what you're gaining you asking these???

That's why Mormons don't commit war crimes. As I said, unless they are told to by their leaders, the leaders will be held responsible; not the soldier. Did you even READ my post??

 

If you follow man and they have you kill someone, the blood is still on your hands. Peter even asked the pharisees "Do we follow man rather than God?"

 

God will judge us, it is not for us to decide. We follow what we believe is right. If we believe man is right, we follow man. If we believe God and Christ are right, we follow them.

 

So Mormons only commit war crimes when they are told by leaders to kill and rape innocent people.

Doesn't your argument suggests that people who practice polygamy are not guilty since they are only following Joseph Smith? May be you mean that Joseph Smith was not a real leader ?

 

Now, you are on your wierd kick again gworld, this is the kind of thing you do in the other threads that makes me not want to even talk with you. Keep it in reality to some degree, if you are talking about leaders telling them to kill and rape innocent people, give a real example of this to back it up, if not you sound like another CS nutjob.

 

It was his example not mine.

 

OK, I thought you went on a tangent again. LOL, my bad.


Everyone has to take responsibilty in their own actions whether or not they were told by an authority. Yes, the main responsibility will be on their commanders, but if they are told to gas thousands of men, woman and children and you pull the lever = you should also hang like the rest.

 

In that example I gave I'm assuming the commanders were not LDS. If the soldiers are, they are to follow their orders unless otherwise instructed by revelation. The commanders are at fault, then, for their crimes against humanity.

Perhaps you're misunderstanding me.

I still believe you're going off on tangent, assuming everybody in the Nazi regime was Mormon??

 

If god told you to follow the law of the land, why then, were you waging war with the government? And why then, did your pals massacre 120 innocent men, women and children?

 

It depends on the exact situation, and I suppose it's up to God; not us.

 

Here is revelation for you. There is something called human integrity which means you should not commit war crimes no matter what commander or God tells you to kill innocent men, women and children.

 

I like how you choose your sources like this.

You call this massacre?

 

Sorry, but that's no revelation, since you're not God.