What is this that makes no sense, has no logic to Muslims in the Christ's teaching?

What is this that makes no sense, has no logic to Muslims in the Christ's teaching?

What ideas, principles or laws they find harmful to humanity in the Christ's teaching?

 

Mightoflove has been given the oscar for posting the best threads for the last two weeks.

 

We want Gods teaching..not the teachings of a man named Christ.

 

If Jesus Christ was an ordinary man like us, then by who's authority He was healing people just by saying "Get up, take your mat and go."

".... 8 Immediately Jesus knew in his spirit that this was what they were thinking in their hearts, and he said to them, “Why are you thinking these things? 9 Which is easier: to say to this paralyzed man, ‘Your sins are forgiven,’ or to say, ‘Get up, take your mat and walk’? 10 But I want you to know that the Son of Man has authority on earth to forgive sins.” So he said to the man, 11 “I tell you, get up, take your mat and go home.” 12 He got up, took his mat and walked out in full view of them all. This amazed everyone and they praised God, saying, “We have never seen anything like this!” ...."

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Mark+2&version=NIV

I never met in my life not even a single person who could heal just like Jesus did. Now, logically who's word has more weight, yours or His?

Just facts like this one show at the very least that Jesus was something extraordinary. Unlike some other teachers who just talk about God, He actually manifested Divine powers, Divine Love, Wisdom, and Truth.

 

Are you implying that Jesus is/was God?

If not then what was he?

 

Jesus was Crucified and those who committed the crime have yet to be brought to Justice and who's crime prevails to this day. Without justice there can be no Remission.

Jesus left no physical proof of of the "Christian Tale" for its corroboration as testament of his abandonment.

Jesus knew the path for Remission is not found in Literature but in the Physical Presence of the Creator, the Garden of our existence and the source for the miracles performed by the Saint.

 

Have you ever watched Benny Hinn? Ever heard of faith healers healing other people? Miracles happen every day. Why does Jesus stand out more than Benny?

 

Let me ask you again, and lets stick to the topic:
What is this that makes no sense, has no logic to Muslims in the Christ's teaching?
What ideas, principles or laws they find harmful to humanity in the Christ's teaching?

 

We want the teachings of God..not of someone named Christ.

So he did something supernatural, does it make him God?

The harm that the teachings of this man named Christ has on humanity is that his teaching divert people away from the teachings of God..how about that?

 

Are you a Muslim?

Judging by your two earlier posts, I don't think you are educated/informed enough on topic to answer his questions.

 

Yes I'm a Muslim, how can I help you?

 

I didn't say He was God, right?

You accept that He did some supernatural things, like healing paralyzed people, He did many other miracles as well which are recorded in the New Testament.

Obviously you are denying that the teaching He gave is not from God.
I will ask you again for the third time:
1. What is this that makes no sense, has no logic to Muslims in the Christ's teaching?
2. Bring up what ideas, principles or laws they find harmful to humanity in the Christ's teaching?
3. What did He do that is against God's will?

 

Did you not see this:

"The harm that the teachings of this man named Christ [your version of Christ] has on humanity is that his teachings divert people away from the teachings of God"

I'm saying Christ is a time waster...I see time wasting as something bad.

Some teachings maybe nice, but I could name 100's of people that have nice teachings.

 

Of course I saw it. But that is just a blanket opinion, which does not provide anything specific. You couldn't bring not even a single sentence, not even a single negative deed done by Christ. You are avoiding answering the questions, because there is nothing negative in the teaching, or you don't have the desire to read and think for yourself. That is the reason. If not with others be honest with yourself if you want to grow (actually you have to be honest with all, all the time, a good starting point is to start with yourself). You can't just say: Jason Smith is a bad man, and expect others to believe you, do you?

Any other Muslims willing to come up with answers to the above questions for a serious talk on the Christ's teaching?

 

You are not being specific either, you are being very vague, how do we know this Christ you talk about? Did he write a book..let me see that book..then I will tell you what I don't like.

 

When the master speaks, it is for the disciple to write down the Word of God that is coming through the master. I asked questions that anybody who knows a bit about Christ teaching, and disagrees with it should be able to make his point. You didn't make your point, so most likely you don't know anything about Christ teaching. Go read something and then come back.

 

LOL.

Go read about Christ's teachings? Where?

I could quote you things from the bible, but you could believe in a different bible[yes there are different bibles in case you didn't know]....so I need you to be specific..tell me where I can find the teachings of Christ...then I can tell you what is wrong with it.

It's like me asking: "What is this that makes no sense, has no logic to Hindu's, in the teachings of Mr X?

Who is MR X and where can I read his teachings?

 

Very simple. Read the New Testament.

New International Version (I think is a good translation, also King James)

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew+1&version=NIV

http://www.biblegateway.com/

 

Read this:

"A Canaanite woman from that vicinity came to him, crying out, 'Lord, Son of David, have mercy on me! My daughter is suffering terribly from demon-possession. Jesus did not answer a word. So his disciples came to him and urged him, 'Send her away, for she keeps crying out after us.' He [Jesus] answered, 'I was sent only to the lost sheep of Israel.' The woman came and knelt before him. 'Lord, help me!' she said. He [Jesus] replied 'It is not right to take the children's [Jews] bread [blessings and miracles reserved for them] and toss it to their dogs [the Gentiles].' 'Yes, Lord' she said, 'but even the dogs eat the crumbs that fall from their masters' table.' Then Jesus answered, 'Woman, you have great faith! Your request is granted.' And her daughter was healed from that very hour. (From the NIV Bible, Matthew 15:22-28)"

From my understanding the Jesus of the bible considered non-Jews as dogs, this teaching is harmful to humanity, I don't have to go into detail about that.

Do you have a good explanation why the Jesus of the bible called non-Jews dogs?

Explain in simple terms, avoid being vague, and no symbols please.

 

22 A Canaanite woman from that vicinity came to him, crying out, “Lord, Son of David, have mercy on me! My daughter is demon-possessed and suffering terribly.”

23 Jesus did not answer a word. So his disciples came to him and urged him, “Send her away, for she keeps crying out after us.”

24 He answered, “I was sent only to the lost sheep of Israel.”

25 The woman came and knelt before him. “Lord, help me!” she said.

26 He replied, “It is not right to take the children’s bread and toss it to the dogs.”

27 “Yes it is, Lord,” she said. “Even the dogs eat the crumbs that fall from their master’s table.”

28 Then Jesus said to her, “Woman, you have great faith! Your request is granted.” And her daughter was healed at that moment.

OK,
Jesus spoke with symbols.
1. Jesus said: "“I was sent only to the lost sheep of Israel.”
Now if you understand it literary, Jesus should be going after lost sheep in Israel, or the jews should be for Jesus sheep. Well the deep meaning is that Jesus was sent to direct the Jews to God, those who were not following God's laws.
2. IMO, He had a specific task from God - the jews.
3. Your understanding that Jesus considered non jews as dogs is quite wrong, and lacks wisdom,
Jesus did heal that girl, which proves He didn't consider them dogs.
4. Looks like you are more interested in proving somebody elses phylosophy rather than looking for true Divine knowledge.

Why don't you pay attention for example on the Jesus' commandment. "Love one another." - Because you are not sincere in your search for Divine Wisdom.
The Divine Wisdom is often given in symbolic language. You have to look for the "spirit" in the principles and the laws.


BTW you still didn' answer the quesions: And actually I don't want you to anymore - you are not sincere. Your opinion/view was formed long ago before you came here.
What is this that makes no sense, has no logic to Muslims in the Christ's teaching?
What ideas, principles or laws they find harmful to humanity in the Christ's teaching?