you have to give respect in order to get it...you cant say silly stuff like "only muslims go to heaven" and expect respect...this is naive... of course I dont belive in god LOL...just using your argument against you...if god made me the way I am then whats the problem? he got what he wanted... same to you...profanity should not insult you...but it does and you do not practice what you preach... no the problem is you dont even have a sub-atomic amount of evidence...not the smallest tiny tiny tiny bit...all you have is a "book" that needs to be "understood" ... don't claim you have evidence when you don't... you suffer form the same problem many religious people do: you are full of words but have absolutely ZERO proof of what you say...go back and read the word ZERO (this is the amount of proof that you have) yes its because you have no proof and will chicken out of giving any proof... my "profanity" is just an excuse to not have to comment on what you cant explain...i understand you no worries
the more religious they are the more excuses they have why they can't answer a simple question...first they insult your intelligence with tales of the super-natural and when you ask for the tiny-est amount of proof they get "angry" ... A:"look i can flap my hands and fly!" B:"show me" A:" you dare question me?" B:"shut me up and show me!" A:"you would not understand even if i showed you!" pfffffft
Actually it's their stupidity that prevent SP for elaborating something sentient but it's still nice to see you pummel him . The enemy of my enemy is my friend .
I don't care if you respect me or not. But don't ask me anything while using bad language, you will not be taken serious. It doesn't even offend me, I just know out of experience that people like you who use profanity and ask loaded questions are not worth talking to. It's not my argument, how can you use it against me? Beside the profanity, you also make a lot of assumptions, so learn how not to do that If you want people to take you serious. It's not offending me, it's just that I know your likes, and you are not worth responding to. You need a tissue?
if (according to your beliefs) god made everything, then he made bad language as well, it is gods work... who are you to question the will of god? profanity is relative...you question my atheism I question your beliefs... you also are guilty of the very thing you accuse me of, you insult my beliefs, only I do not LIE about it I admit: I am profane ... you do not... lying is a sin but you assume that god made everything and expect to be taken seriously at the same time? And sure its your argument: "god made everything bla bla" ERGO: if god made everything (according to you NOT according to me) THEN what I am (my thoughts, emotions, beliefs, life experiences...) are GODS WILL ...SO if its all gods will then why should he be angry? NONE of this is my choice its gods... I don't get to pick what I feel its all a result of gods will (according to your beliefs that god made everything) then what does god have to be angry about? Even if you made the false counter argument that I control myself not god, then put it to you that one can definitely not control what one feels, I can not make myself a believer its completely impossible...I am a profane atheist brings up another interesting point, for example a serial killer does not get to control his "urge to kill" ...he is simply what he is: a killer...now he did not get to pick if he will be born as a lunatic or a rocket scientist...(according to your beliefs) this is gods will ... when the serial killer dies and goes to judgement he can argue that he is what god made him right? crazed killers do not posses logical thought they can not repent or change their ways, its just what they are and some killers are born as complete lunatics they did not become this during their life... how can god be mad at them if he made them this way and gave them no chance? yet you respond never the less how about a sub-sub-atomic little itty bitty tiny winy shred of a sub-particle of a shadow of proof? Anything thats not in some "book"? Is your belief so weak that you dare not give proof? I can understand this, its common for people who need to assure themselves in to something they they do not believe themselves yes...to wipe my tears as i laugh at your "proof" if you ever post it...and I know you wont because its too silly to post and you are fully aware of it ...
God made everything, but not your actions mate, you make your actions, you have free will. You are a profane atheist, and I don't care. Just don't insult me a dozen times and then demand answer to your questions..do you realize you are demanding something from me? It's not normal behaviour to insult someone 12 times then ask him "hey can I have dollar?" .. Stop assuming you know what my beliefs are. See I'm repeating myself..how did I know you are one of those people that I have to repeat myself to several times? The Messenger of Allah (صلي الله عليه وسلم) said: “The Pen is lifted from three (i.e., their deeds are not recorded): 1. a child until he reaches puberty; 2. an insane man until he comes to his senses; 3. one who is asleep until he wakes up.†[Recorded in Abu Dawud #4403, and Ibn Majah #2041] I was talking about responding to your first post. As for the proof..I told you..this is thread is not about that. ----
except bad language? LOL he either made it or he didnt now you decide either he made all and everything or he didnt which is it?...if he made it then who are you to question the work of god? your insult to my intelligence came first "only muslims go to heaven" learn to respect people and they will respect you back...me demand? how can i demand from you what you cant possibly give me: actual proof? LOL! im poking you because you are a fool I'm not seriously entertaining the thought that you could actually post something LOL look at the first three words of your reply "god made everything" LOL its your words ergo your beliefs...WTF? so if an evil evil, but completely sane child, before reaching puberty, goes on a killing spree its completely ok? what about eskimos who never get to hear about islam do they go to hell as well? yeah yeah right its ok to be ashamed of your "proof" ...its not a position i would want to be in LOL ....knowing that your proof will be ridiculed in the most hideous of ways is certainly not pleasant for you and you have to pretend that "this thread is not about that" LOL ... it must suck to be not able to post any actual proof... I kinda feel sorry for you ... clinging on to your shaky shaky belief, having to avoid any questions and logical thought, but at the same time having to spew BS so that you can talk yourself in to it some more...seems like a vicious cycle
I have all the answers to your questions, but since you are another imbecile, I won't be entertaining you any longer, It's a shame because I want to address some of the falsehoods that you are spreading and shut you up for good, but I simply have no time for idiots. Have fun.
I believe your soul is the only thing leaving to heaven. If you have never committed murder of another human then you will go to heaven. Your body stays and decays into the ground for the new cycle of life.
but its not your choice,you are simply very very entertaining and you will continue to do so whether you speak to me or not ... riiiiiiighhtt...."I can flap my hands and fly like a bird but only when nobody is watching" ok im off for a refreshing night flight LOL everybody close their eyes now so that i can fly! dont peek!
Indeed... What a shame... Funny, because a I'd been talking to one of my mates and he is a Muslim, and he said that any true Muslim will never bad mouth any person. Specially if he truly believes that the other person is mentally challenged, he will give respect and love to even his worst enemies, because he knows that when day comes he will get what he truly deserves, the blessings and love of god. Trust me, I did not make this up.. And here you are insulting people, questioning their intellect, calling them stupid, retarded and what not.. Everytime you insult someone, you insult your own faith, you insult teachings of Quran and you insult none other than God himself. Now I'm an atheist and personally wouldn't give two shits about it. But mate going with your faith and your religion, you are so full of sins that you are gonna rot in hell forever, you know that? Repent IsraeI, repent... Think of the sins you have committed on this very forum. Ask for forgiveness and hope that everyone forgives you, otherwise no 72 virgins for you mate, you are not so going to heaven...
You need to learn to differentiate between insults and criticism. Don't play victim Mr Webby, after all this time you are still playing victim instead of correcting your mistakes.
I don't need to play victim, I just hate to think that you are so ignorant of continuous sins committed by yourself, you are so gonna rot in hell.. Are you a true Muslim IraeI? I dont think so.. Yes there is a difference between criticism and insult. Apparently you can not tell the difference. You just ignore the point of posts that you can not answer and go on to commit more sins.. But see, I'm criticizing you, do you see me calling you retard, stupid, imbecile, idiot, not even having two brain cells to rub together etc? Not that I think you are not... Calling name isn't criticism, its insult. But again what do we expect from a sinner like you? You are a phony, mate, you are an insult to true Muslims. I get it, you are here to give a bad name to all Muslims, thats your mission... I don't talk to phony people.. So you can talk to the hand or something.
FYI: I have read the bible in full nearly 30 years ago. I can not remember what Mark had to say. Whilst the bible itself may do some people some good at their time of need, IMHO it has harmed just as many families as has helped, if not more. As a collection of tales of people's failures & wins and refined over many years, sometimes based on facts and others by parables, gathered by philosophers who may or may not have been trying to make the world better, yes, I do believe in the bible. I also believe the bible, just like Koran, was put together at the time by people with an agenda (as is any book), each is penned to suit its purpose, which has since provided both good and bad repercussions on the world, and these repercussions are often doled out by extreme believers of both religions who take some passages out of context and twist them to suit their needs. Then to add to that, it creates a fire inside some of these kooks, many will go on to politics just so they can enforce their morals on the rest of us, setting their 'standards' upon us with new rules and regulations for us all to abide by, whilst others will go on to commit murder 'for' God's sake and others will just look down upon their society as being full of evil. We take it at face value that others think like us but obviously they do not. We are all much more complex than that. A simple passage that says 'thou shalt not kill' is read many ways and seems to have turned into something else. WHAT IS GOD? I find it hard to believe that most people seem not to understand that they themselves are indeed God. That they are indeed responsible right now for who they are, and they are creating their own world from their own choices and are living the life they expect & have indeed asked for. You are where you are because you put yourself there, no other God did that for you. KORAN: IMHO, I think just like King Henry created his religion to get back at the Catholics, the book on Mo was put together by a group of people who wanted to outflank the Catholics. The rules, it seems, were originally enforced on the people and are totally biased (upon pain of death) towards never leaving the religion, which, over so many generations has created the following we have now. I can only hope one day people will stop teaching a particular religion and start respecting others as the Gods we all are, treating others the same way you want to be treated. HEAVEN: If we all lived in a place where everybody got what they wanted then we would end up with exactly the world we have now. Make the best of it and enjoy. - Copyright: Me
Why does god not exist. Because he cant be seen. Yesterday i saw a boy moaning loudly with pain because of a wound and all i see scientifically was 3 db volume from his mouth with increase and decrease of intensity everytime like a sine wave and some liquid from his eyes. I could not see the pain or sadness anywhere. Does this sound stupid. Well it is when i see it all scienitifically with no morals. There are things which cant be seen or heard. Happiness sadness etc. I am not someone who keeps chanting prayers all night long. Working for the upliftment of humanity is much more appreciated than doing prayers. So you are not going to hell just because you don't believe in god. If you are a good and helping person you wont be punished. Skepticism is appreciated in everything accept god. Let me put it this way. No matter how good i do, i wont be rewarded and will be treated just like any other murderer who does not deserve life. Or that i came to earth by a cosmic accident as scientists say and i can believe in a mathematical impossibility rather than a power greater than us. The best is that i have to live my life every second knowing it is meaningless. So this all that should be true for their to be no god. I am sorry but i believe a power greater than me which i respect and i work for the upliftment of humanity.