What Creates Conversions...? Awesome Copy Writing, Duh! 'I'll write A high converting sales copy that will marry with your specific niche and make your clients absolutely love you' Take a look at a draft from an earlier campaign right here Want me to write your sales copy? Hit me up with a PM Pat Vikstrom
Guys ... since the thread title is actually saying "... High Converting Copy Writing" and the name of this section is copywriting, I can't really see a better place for it. Aluminum; since all you have written on this forum is an introduction, actually introducing yourself as a writer, maybe you should spend your efforts on something more creative instead of pointless ranting one liners... copywriting means copywriting. This could end up in an endless debate, but what's the point.
Pat, this section of the forums is intended for talking about copywriting not offering services which might happen to include copywriting. If this section had a decent moderator, your post would have already been moved.
It wasn't a 'rant', newbie. It was me busting your balls because you came on here offering top notch copywriting services and your giant text pitch demonstrated quite clearly that either a) you don't have much grasp on the syntactical constructions used in English. or b) you don't think proper English is important in copywriting. or c) you simply don't give a monkey's toss. Using language like 'rant' isn't really going to win you many friends here. 'Angry Young Men' don't usually make 'Good Copywriters', and everyone is aware of that. And BTW, YMC is quite correct. You want to sell something, try the BST forum.
Yes, you might of created a thread about copyrighting, but your ultimate aim is selling your writing skills. So it belongs in Buy Sell Trade section where all business is done. Who cares if people are digging into you? Grow a thicker skin. You posted in the wrong forum and seem deadset on refusing to accept that. Stop making personal attacks as people are only trying to help you.
What tells you I´m a newbie, newbie? I´m 40 yo and I present my self with my real name and real pic. I have had other accounts here before, but closed them down, this I just opened Jul 2nd 2010, a year ago. And I just actively started marketing here on DP a short while ago. I´ve got iTrade points for the deals I´ve made so far. Read them. I had a look at your feedback... zero since 2008... Anyway, back to the subject. I do have good grasp of the Syntactical constructions, or rules, of the English language. But that's not what copywriting is all about. It's about appealing to the prospects with your message. Highly advanced academic and formal English won't do the trick. In most cases you're talking to Mr. average Joe, and your mission is to appeal to him at his level where he feels comfortable and therefore puts him in buying mode. Eg "just a guy talking to the next guy" which is what the thread title is implying. Not making him feel small and inferior by showing off your perfect, superior English skills, basically telling Joe he is stupid. So, no, proper English is not that important in copywriting. Copywriting is about human psychology, more then anything else. Look at one of the most successful copywriters in the world, Frank Kern. Read his copy ... Then you'll understand what I'm talking about. And if the mods wants to move this thread, I´m all cool with that. All the best, Pat Vikstrom
Furthermore, in the forums listings under 'business', if you take a look at the headline and sub headline for this section, it's saying the following: So tell me again I'm wrong... Best regards, Pat
you only have 88 posts, you leap onto the sub-forum inappropriately trying to sell something, you use 90 point red font, you don't bother to proofread it, you respond aggressively, you argue with respected members like YMC instead of doing the rational thing, which is admit you are wrong... yada yada yada. I'd quit while you're behind, if I was you, newbie.
you're wrong. A forum for people offering or looking for copywriting services isn't the same as a forum for people TO offer their copywriting services. It's that dang English language thing again, ain't it, Vixstix?
"If you are offering or looking for copywriting services, please use this forum." Now I see why so many folks do think this is the right place to post their solicitations. In trying to make a brief statement the author of those words made it easy to misinterpret. It should probably say something like, "This forum is for the discussion of writing sales copy and business writing in general. Professional writers and customers can ask each other questions and share ideas but if you are soliciting to buy or sell copy, please visit the Content BST area."