i have a hatered for islam

No one here is laughing at the death of anyone.

 

What Iraqi people do ... in their country is their problem and it is their problem and their responsibility. Now when an outside country attacks them for whatever reason, there would be (and is) some resistance. If you think they are terrorists, then you better make sure you have the definition of terrorist right.

On March 17, 2005, a UN panel described terrorism as any act: "intended to cause death or serious bodily harm to civilians or non-combatants with the purpose of intimidating a population or compelling a government or an international organization to do or abstain from doing any act."
---Wikipedia.org----

Fighters in Iraq and Afghanistan cannot be labelled as terrorist as they fight mainly the foreign army. In fact, Iraqi fighters are more close to what American revolutionaries where when they had to fight the British empire during the American revolution..

 

Agreed. I highly doubt he is an Athiest anyway. If he was he would have a neutral eye and would not sound obviously biased.

 

Syed123, do others a big favor and read the entire thread before speaking completely out of school.

Thank you.

 

HUH?? The definition fits perfectly. How many civilians are killed every day in Iraq from these idiotic terrorists? Or do you call that freedom fighting? LOL

Freedom fighting is where you are protecting your fellow people from another group - NOT KILLING THEM!!!

I swear I am so tired of hearing the term freedom fighter in context with people who are killing the people they say they are fighting for! Especially when you hear it from American students.

 

You must be one of those "I see only what CNN shows me" kind of guy. Really cannot help those. Use your logic and ask yourselves some questions. Think about it, do research and you will know the truth. Well, even better, close your eyes.. ignore the truth and let our leaders use our tax money to attack other countries and bring back oil. How come you did not ever wonder.. "why would Iraqi soldiers kill their own men?" Are they blood thirsty maniacs or they get paid to kill them? Majority of Afghani and Iraqi deaths is due to US so called "laser guided" missiles.

Even for a second, lets assume Iraqi soldiers are actually psycho killers and kill Iraqi people... still what job does US have there? Nothing close WMD was ever found. Do you still believe US is in Iraq and Afghanistan for a Nobel cause?

 

I am a free thinker and I don't take the news very seriously - they can't get most things accurate because they usually are trying to make the news instead of reporting what really happened.

Do you really think the daily deaths from suicidal bombers, car bombs and EIDs are the work of laser guided missles?

WMDs and the components there of have been found and are still being found, plenty of examples have been QUIETLY reported on the news and thats why so many think nothing has been found. The media doesn't want to make a big deal out of it or they would have to admit their bias. Probably how you react when they find evidence of WMDs, you don't want to believe so you say it is mouthwash or for medical purposes - like they need x-ray machines in the desert miles away from the cities.

 

I wish I was atheist sometimes. They get to say whatever they want.

 

Some of them even swear to God... That always gets me..

 

This is absolutely untrue.

The terrorists in Afghanistan are mainly murder Afghanis and the terrorists in Iraq are mainly murdering Iraqi's.

In addition, we have seen that the terrorists in Afghanistan are lead by Arabs, not Afghanis. We have also seen that the terrorists in Iraq are lead by Jordanians, Egyptians, and Iranians. Many of the suicide bombers have been African.

It is these foreigners who come into Afghanistan and Iraq to murder people.

 

"It is these foreigners who come into Afghanistan and Iraq to murder people."
Then blame the U.S.!

 

Only the US media is blaming the US, or that in the left in America... Kinda makes you wonder who is supporting these insurgents and terrorists... Hmmm.

 

That's the part I don't get when some suggest "you only see what news you get from CNN." I don't think there can be any more question as to whose side CNN is on anymore. No better friend could a terrorist group have, then to tell CNN they have a propaganda video and would like CNN to air it, and CNN willingly does so. Can we question their patriotism now?

 

CNN is and always has been the Communist News Network.

 

Ya, I find a lot of times people here think all Americans are brainwashed.
I don't have cable tv, so I don't watch CNN or Fox news.
I do not sit here waiting for information to come to me. And I for sure do not sit here looking with a closed mind. What good can that do?
I seek out news, it's not that hard, it's all over if you look.

There are two sides to every pancake - Dr. Phil

 

What I love are the stories about insurgents and terrorists on CNN where they have a picture with a caption that says something like:

"Pictured is an insurgent with an IED aimed at US forces and Iraqi Forces."

Lovely.. Kinda makes you wonder why the person that took the picture or the reporter who wrote the story is not on the phone to the US or Iraqi government with a posistion and coordinates. Whose side are they on anyway?

These are the same people that conduct interviews with bin laden and other terrorists but never once bother to tell the authorities where they are.

 

Are you saying that the army wrap themselves up with bombs and go in public area in their own country and blow themselves up? Even if the army wants to kill civilians, which there is no obvious motive of anyway, they would not have to blow themselves up. They have the machines and the public dont. I believe they can annihilate half of the population if they intend to kill Iraqis. They only intend to kill US soldiers and some of the Iraqi soldiers that are supporting US soldiers (Yes, some Iraqi soldiers and political groups do support US and it is obviously mostly for money now and power in future).

About the WMD, I dont think there s hardly any room for discussion considering the US government.. including Bush (came as a surprise) agreed that they did not find any WMD whatsoever. To my surprise, even CNN broadcasted it. Where you watching? I am not sure anyone including well informed Americans would believe that anything even close to WMD has been found in Iraq. If you consider, hand grenades, small land mines, RPK Machine guns and home made bombs to be WMD, then sure, lots of WMD was found

If you know even little bit about Iraq like their economic condition and political situation from past decade, you would know they would hardly have any capability of developing Weapons of Mass Destruction. It was possible that they could develop WMD but highly unlikely considering their infrastructure and resources. If media insisted that US did find WMD, I would do my own research...but yes, like you said, I would not instantly believe CNN and other networks if they claimed US found WMD in Iraq. Btw, which specific broadcasting company is biased against US? (Jazeera? whose controlling authority is still a mystery.. Is it controlled by a US ally? Jews? Just Qatar govt? Terrorists?). I would be very interested to know which media firm you actually think is biased against US.

 

They would love only if they knew. I dont know if you know but any outside person is usually blind folded and taken for a long and intentionally extremely confusing route before taken to Bin Laden or any high figure for an interview.

 

Same here. Except, I do watch CNN ..only to research more and have a good laugh about it later. I find BBC to be little more credible than CNN.

 

Then they should tell the authorities before they go and send in US forces under cover.