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What links are BackLinks ? I don't get this . How does google work ?

Discussion in 'Search Engine Optimization' started by BooTCaT, May 21, 2011.

  1. #1
    Hi fellas,

    What links are considered backlinks ? please explain .

    i have lot of sites linking to me , which can be found in this google query .

    http://www.google.co.in/#hl=en&biw=...206350l2l0l0l0l0l0l0l0l0l&fp=d5eb294fd78cffb6

    There are many sites linking to to my website , by people .

    But google backlinks are only 4 , here

    http://www.google.com/#sclient=psy&...=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.&fp=c9ba145ff8753b37

    Why are the above links not considered backlinks ?

    I had huge backlinks and traffic before the panda update .

    Please explain .
     
    BooTCaT, May 21, 2011 IP
  2. Irfi0009

    Irfi0009 Banned

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    yes google always accept quality site as back link so you must get quality links if you want increase back link
     
    Irfi0009, May 21, 2011 IP
  3. BooTCaT

    BooTCaT Well-Known Member

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    Is this true ? arshadbutt ? are you saying backlinkers should have a PR ?
     
    BooTCaT, May 22, 2011 IP
  4. property

    property Peon

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    Its not like that better back links may not have good page rank,i think PR is search engine's ranking for quality content and links,any how need to build more user friendly links after some time automaticallly page rank will increase.
     
    property, May 23, 2011 IP
  5. tattoos

    tattoos Prominent Member

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    Google's Link:keyword search doesn't show all back links. Use Yahoo's site explorer instead.

    Some of your back links are structured like this "kidsuki.com/search.php?q=Tiger" which gets 301 redirected to "kidsuki.com/s/?q=Tiger" which gets 301 redirected to "kidsuki.com/s/Tiger/0/" which returns a "HTTP/1.1·404·Not·Found"

    You may want to fix those issues before worrying about backlinks. Use HTTPview or web sniffer to view redirects and header response info.

    Cheers
    James
     
    tattoos, May 23, 2011 IP
  6. BooTCaT

    BooTCaT Well-Known Member

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    @property , thank you for the reply.

    @tattoos ,
    You are right yahoo site explorer gives us a clear better picture . But google seems to be the traffic lord . So i am worried on this.

    And regarding the redirect question ,
    I have made some url changes to my site structure . The reason is that permalinks get gathered into google's index rather than pages with 'search.php?q=' style url.
    So i made a change to the url structure .

    Now coloring pages are gathered with query kidsuki.com/s/Tiger/0 url , which are better crawled and indexed by google than kidsuki.com/search.php?q=Tiger&p=0 .

    I wrote manual redirects to rewrite any old query into the new query using 301 as 301 is best for seo .

    Hence two redirects to move the old query to /s and convert the get variables into in-url variables .

    And the 404 could be due to traffic .

    It seems to be fine for me . Please have a look and tell me your thoughts .
     
    BooTCaT, May 23, 2011 IP
  7. tattoos

    tattoos Prominent Member

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    It wasn't a question.

    The URL's won't be indexed if the header returns a 404·Not·Found - http://www.google.com/search?q=site:kidsuki.com/s/ and http://www.google.com/search?q=site:kidsuki.com/

    If it was fine I wouldn't have mentioned it. You need to fix it.
    http://tools.digitalpoint.com/headers.php?url=http://www.kidsuki.com/s/Tiger/0/
    http://tools.digitalpoint.com/headers.php?url=http://www.kidsuki.com/search.php?q=Tiger

    Once you've fixed it, you should think about adding a sitemap.

    Cheers
    James
     
    tattoos, May 24, 2011 IP
  8. LinkGenie

    LinkGenie Active Member

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    You cannot get an idea how Google count backlinks by using link command. Google will only display few of your backlinks when you try link command. You can see more backlinks if you use Google webmaster account.
     
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  9. BooTCaT

    BooTCaT Well-Known Member

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    James,Thank you .
    You were right and i got that fixed .
    The header is a 200 Ok now.
    It was due to wordpress custom theme .

    And yes, i will add a site map . But are you recommending a plain HTML sitemap or the google sitemap.

     
    BooTCaT, May 24, 2011 IP
  10. BooTCaT

    BooTCaT Well-Known Member

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    Yes LinkGenie ,
    As you said i can see more backlinks from webmaster and site explorer . But This makes me lethargic to do link submissions .
    They "may" be taken by google.
     
    BooTCaT, May 24, 2011 IP
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    Good to see you fixed it...

    Yeah, I meant an xml sitemap so the search engines know what pages you have in your site. you could also add a HTML sitemap for your visitors if you wanted too, maybe one that just has links to the main areas of your site. Its up to you.

    Cheers
    James
     
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  12. Aaron Egan

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    If you want a broader scope of backlink data try Open Site Explorer and Majestic SEO too, both tools I find quite valuable. Personally, I have never used Google's link: operator as a continued source of backlink data, it's horrible in my opinion and Webmaster Tools is not much better.
     
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    If you use chrome ChromeSeo is a great plugin that counts backlinks from all these sites.
    otherwise, seo quake is very good!
     
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  14. BooTCaT

    BooTCaT Well-Known Member

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    Thank you tattoos, aaron and yharara . Yes i'm into webmaster tools right now .

    Actually i thought the panda update got me out of google index and did not worry about the 404 .
    I must have lost tons of money.
     
    BooTCaT, May 28, 2011 IP
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    bacnklinks are the links point back to your website such as your forum sign, blog comment with link in web url
     
    flipperman, May 29, 2011 IP