South Dakota and its Abortion Ban

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by guy123, Oct 21, 2006.

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South Dakota Abortion ban

  1. Good for the nation - overturn abortion - it's terrible

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  2. Bad for the nation - the US should stay prochoice

    17 vote(s)
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  1. yo-yo

    yo-yo Well-Known Member

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    #61
    Then perhaps you should start learning the meaning of the words you throw around on here, and you might make a little more sense. ;)
     
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  2. Grafstein

    Grafstein Peon

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    #62
    If its not murder,what is it?
     
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  3. yo-yo

    yo-yo Well-Known Member

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    #63
    Do you know what murder is?
    Abortion is neither unlawful nor the killing of a human being. So what part are you confused about? Perhaps you and gtech could retake 7th grade english class? ;)
     
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  4. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    #64
    I'm fully aware that abortion is murder. I just haven't convinced you, yet, that murdering children as an easy out to taking responsibility for one's actions is wrong. But let's keep those murderers alive and behind bars!
     
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  5. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #65
    He's still young yet, has no kids, basically no concept of what life is yet. Give him time.
     
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  6. lorien1973

    lorien1973 Notable Member

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    #66
    I'm in full support of yo-yo exterminating his off-spring. Aren't we all, really?
     
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  7. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #67
    I can't argue with that.
     
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  8. yo-yo

    yo-yo Well-Known Member

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    #68
    Of all the people on here you should be the first one for abortion, don't want anyone to get any welfare right lorien ;)
     
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  9. lorien1973

    lorien1973 Notable Member

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    #69
    No, I think you confuse me with someone else who thinks poor people should be exterminated.

    I'm not so sure I believe everyone who is born is put on welfare. Are you?
     
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  10. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #70
    He just keeps digging that whole deeper and deeper.... Give up yo..
     
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  11. yo-yo

    yo-yo Well-Known Member

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    #71
    Planned Parenthood’s own figures are that there will be welfare costs of $13,900 for each first birth to a teenager (married and unmarried), and $8,400 cost for each first birth to her if she is 20 years or older.

    Lets look at a single year (1995)

    152,233 abortions (under age 20) x $13,900 = $2,116,038,700

    Thats $2.1 billion dollars in welfare that was saved, and that's not even including all the abortions from 20+ year olds (another 600-700,000)

    Ready to get your wallets out guys, start shelling it out to all those poor people you forced to have kids they didn't want, they're going to be on welfare for a long time ;)
     
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  12. lorien1973

    lorien1973 Notable Member

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    #72
    Is your point that poor people should be exterminated?
     
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  13. yo-yo

    yo-yo Well-Known Member

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    #73
    My point is people who don't want kids shouldn't be forced to have them like some of you wish. :rolleyes:
     
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    lorien1973 Notable Member

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    #74
    So, you think poor people are too stupid to use birth control or something like someone else could? I'm waiting for your point.

    Your previous stats tell me your position is either: poor people shouldn't exist because they are an economic drain. Or, that there are too many poor people already, so they don't deserve to exist. Which is it?

    Or is it just certain minorities you are against?
    http://www.cbn.com/CBNnews/CWN/042106Abortion.aspx

     
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  15. Grafstein

    Grafstein Peon

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    #75
    Point 1)You say its not unlawful because we live in a country where its lawful.
    Point 2)It is the killing of a human being,that featus will turn into a child in 5 weeks,your gonna respond by saying "abortion is commited within the 5 weeks"
    I believe when you have sex and this featus is produced,the featus will turn into a child.
    Terminating this featus is terminating a potential child.
     
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  16. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #76
    They're not forced to have sex, and they are not forced to get pregnant. Might want to think about that for a bit.

    I think Lorien might have a point here. You really think the poor should be exterminated? You are well on your way to supporting Ferret's theories of Nazi Germany.
     
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  17. ferret77

    ferret77 Heretic

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    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #78
    "Teen Birth Rates", or teen pregnancies? There is a difference. Nice try.
     
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    #79
    Oh I dunno. Maybe it matters that 40% of the abortions happen to 13% of the population. Seems to be a slight problem there, right?

    If 40% of the deaths Iraq were black, you'd be goin' crazy wouldn't ya ferret?


    EDIT - In a society where the younger generation is forced to pay for the older generation's retirement, I fail to see any good outcome for a declining birth rate. Read a little about what is about to happen to social security when the boomers come of age.
     
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    ferret77 Heretic

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    #80
    abortions don't just happen, people choose to have them

    here you go worrying about the government taking care of you,
     
    ferret77, Oct 23, 2006 IP