Buying Through Your On Link is Fraud? Chris Farrell Memberhips says it is

Discussion in 'ClickBank' started by Sickthing, May 10, 2011.

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    I was on the Chris Farrell Membership site tonight looking for help with his affiliate program. I noticed he had a Knowledge base item "What to do if you bought through your own affiliate link." I'm not a member at this time.

    I send a support desk request off, wow it was answered fast. I asked if it there was anything wrong with it. They told me it was against their ToS and CB considers it fraud.

    I asked about this many months ago here and everyone told me it was not against CB ToS and I certainly can't find it on their site.

    I thought that was the purpose of the CDR? To prevent someone from doing only that but once you had your five sales and two different sources it was perfectly okay. In fact, I always figured that IM marketers expected this and set their pricing accordingly. I probably wouldn't sell an IM product on CB for this very reason. Though e-junkie's interface for affiliate is HORRIBLE. :)

    If CB didn't allow this, I think they would take steps to make it harder to do it and they don't.

    Please let me know what you folks have found regarding this.

    Thanks!
     
    Sickthing, May 10, 2011 IP
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    dlm Peon

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    #2
    People buy products through their own affiliate links all the time. I've never heard of anyone getting in trouble for it.
     
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    I would guess they don't want you to buy their system via your own link... I think it's silly as the whole MMO product line revolves around influenced charting from people buying w/their own links.

    Tell you what, you can buy all my products with your own links, tell all your friends they can too - I encourage it and applaud it - you give me money and gravity why would I care if you don't pay full price you could have just as easily went through someone elses aff link and I wouldn't know any better...
     
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    Clickbank does consider buying your own products to be fraud.

    People throw that fraud word around way too much.

    I have seen people buy my product with their link. You know, the one hit and instant purchase. I never dreamed of moaning about it. They get the same service as anyone else does.
     
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    I looked over their site again, nothing there. Certainly not listed in the don'ts and I'm sure that it would be there. I also sent a support desk ticket. Will post the results.
     
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    Clickbank does consider buying your own products to be fraud.

    People throw that fraud word around way too much.

    I have seen people buy my product with their link. You know, the one hit and instant purchase. I never dreamed of moaning about it. They get the same service as anyone else does.
     
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    Clickbank does consider buying your own products to be fraud.

    People throw that fraud word around way too much.

    I have seen people buy my product with their link. You know, the one hit and instant purchase. I never dreamed of moaning about it. They get the same service as anyone else does.
     
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    Clickbank does consider buying your own products to be fraud.

    People throw that fraud word around way too much.

    I have seen people buy my product with their link. You know, the one hit and instant purchase. I never dreamed of moaning about it. They get the same service as anyone else does.
     
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    Clickbank does consider buying your own products to be fraud.

    People throw that fraud word around way too much.

    I have seen people buy my product with their link. You know, the one hit and instant purchase. I never dreamed of moaning about it. They get the same service as anyone else does.
     
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    Clickbank does consider buying your own products to be fraud.

    People throw that fraud word around way too much.

    I have seen people buy my product with their link. You know, the one hit and instant purchase. I never dreamed of moaning about it. They get the same service as anyone else does.
     
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    Clickbank does consider buying your own products to be fraud.

    People throw that fraud word around way too much.

    I have seen people buy my product with their link. You know, the one hit and instant purchase. I never dreamed of moaning about it. They get the same service as anyone else does.
     
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    Clickbank does consider buying your own products to be fraud.

    People throw that fraud word around way too much.

    I have seen people buy my product with their link. You know, the one hit and instant purchase. I never dreamed of moaning about it. They get the same service as anyone else does.
     
    Sickthing, May 11, 2011 IP
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    Clickbank does consider buying your own products to be fraud.

    People throw that fraud word around way too much.

    I have seen people buy my product with their link. You know, the one hit and instant purchase. I never dreamed of moaning about it. They get the same service as anyone else does.
     
    Sickthing, May 11, 2011 IP
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    dlm Peon

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    Thanks for posting the same message 9 times...
     
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    You know, if you were half as smart as you think you are and half half the experience you act like you do, you would know that I didn't do that. It is a glitch. I did not post the message 9 times.
     
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    Thanks for posting the same word twice...
     
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    #17
    I've experienced double posts, but never 9 of them over a period of 42 minutes.

    and for the OP's question: You're not allowed to purchase things though your own affiliate link.
    Think is probably to prevent people from buying things cheaper. I mean, if you had the choise
    of either buying a product full-price or signinging up with clickbank to buy it, what would you do?

    However, I don't think many marketers really care. some of them even give away their products for
    free if you present them with a realisic and profitable plan for marketing their products and so on.
     
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    Your very very welcome
     
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    Lol it did it over 42 minutes? I didn't look at the times. I did wonder about 9 times. So I came back an posted it 9 times? Why would I do that?

    Sorry for the dups. I was running some video capture software. I've seen it cause duplicates on forums before but never 9 times either. Only two times before that post.

    Yeah, they told me you can't do it. And they told me that according to CB it is fraud. I don't believe that but I will find out.

    This guy is pretty large and he does give away a lot but I don't think he's ever given away his membership course. Though I have seen a lot of his stuff given away by him. Not everything. It is really a great starting place for someone new to IM. I'm not trashing him or his position though I just want to find out the facts. It is so easy to hide it, I don't know why anyone would try to prevent it. There are other programs out there that prevent it and will foil most attempts to bypass it.
     
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    The guy is lying. It's been posted in other threads that people have asked CB this very question and there is no problem buying through your own affiliate link.

    Why is Chris Farrell telling you otherwise? Probably because he wants 100% of your revenue. Also - he is an selling his MMO product and basically everyone who sells a product like that just lies anyway.

    Here is what you do - tell Chris you'll buy his product directly without using your affiliate link. Tell him you'll then download his course and immediately ask for a refund. Nothing he can do to stop you from doing that - I'd love to see how he responds to that idea.
     
    dlm, May 11, 2011 IP