Asking People To Click On Google Links

Discussion in 'Guidelines / Compliance' started by Alundria, Oct 22, 2006.

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    I have a friend that has a great website with a forum, and she has just gotten adsense, she has a line on her forum where she is asking members to go to her webpage and click on the google links. I have informed her that this is not accepted by google and her response was "What google staff member is going to search every thread for hidden messages". I don't think she completely understands how google works and the search engine part of it. Can you advise me as to how to explain this to her, as I do not want her to lose her adsense, that is if google hasn't already found it. How do they notify you if they have found something and cancelled or suspended your account?
     
    Alundria, Oct 22, 2006 IP
  2. aditya_sfs

    aditya_sfs Peon

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    Probably she will get a warning first and then understand google . . .
     
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  3. adiace

    adiace Active Member

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    She might not get a warning... it clearly states that you cannot do what she is doing, yet she doesn't care.

    Give her a link to DP and show her some "banned" threads :)
     
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  4. jacobs8

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    Someone from her forum will probably notify google.
     
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  5. Alundria

    Alundria Peon

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    I was thinking about giving her a link to this thread if I got anything specific that would help her to understand.

    the people on her forum are pretty much not knowledgeable enough to know to report her.
     
    Alundria, Oct 22, 2006 IP
  6. invincible.vib

    invincible.vib Peon

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    Well you can search about account disabled threads here in DP or webmaster world....and give a link to her....i guess after seeing those threads she will know how serious are Adsense staff about their TOS!
     
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  7. Amilo

    Amilo Peon

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    Is her name Alundria ?
     
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  8. Alundria

    Alundria Peon

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    No, my partner is an SEO and helps me with all of these on my forums LOL

    He just doesn't like me helping my friends with their forums.
     
    Alundria, Oct 22, 2006 IP
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    You can tell your friend that Google rarely warns when fraud is involved. You should explain to her that she is stealing money from Google advertisers, and that Google WILL catch her and WILL ban her before she gets paid.

    They usually wait until they "review" your account. They di this right before each payment. If there is any reason that you should be banned, Google will take all of her $$, ban her for life, and then she will cry.

    So just when she is so excited to hit the $100 mark for the first time, she will get smacked down with a ban before payday. That's the way the G world works.
     
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  10. Alundria

    Alundria Peon

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    How can I explain that it it not some person reading manually through all of her threads, she feels she won't get caught and every one pretty much gets caught as far as I know?
     
    Alundria, Oct 22, 2006 IP
  11. maryn

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    I would tell her that there's bound to be one person on that forum that will report her. Also, let her know that once she's banned there's no going back. Why take the chance.
    And the last thing I would recommend . . . is don't get involved. You've done all you could. Let her deal with it.
     
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  12. Dominicc2003

    Dominicc2003 Peon

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    #12

    Ok, this is how to explain to her how google work:

    1. They search your site periodically for words and phrases that ask people to click on ads, this is routine.
    2. When you reach payment they thoroughly look through your site, especially at the pages where ads have lots of clicks and/or high CTR) which the "please click" pages will have...
    3. If you have high CTR or not too high CTR but high CTR compared to the rest of your site on one page, google will look.
    4. Google has no mercy.


    Explain all that to her. Most of it is basically true (I assume)...

    P.S. Wow you're the first person to spell "lose" correctly (apart from me) on these forums!!!!!
     
    Dominicc2003, Oct 22, 2006 IP
  13. Alundria

    Alundria Peon

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    Thank you everyone for your help.

    How do people spell "lose" btw?
     
    Alundria, Oct 22, 2006 IP
  14. Dominicc2003

    Dominicc2003 Peon

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    #14
    lots of people spell "lose" wrong as "loose". It annoys the hell outta me!
     
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    #15
    You don't have to look too far to find heaps of spelling errors even in the thread titles here at DP! However, I am fussy :D

    Col :)
     
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  16. Dominicc2003

    Dominicc2003 Peon

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    wot yuo meen? :p
     
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  17. SmartSue

    SmartSue Peon

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    This is only part of the fraudulent clicks problem that your friend faces, but when/if she clicks on ads from her own IP address, Google appears to automagically detect the click.

    Some people, when they realize they have clicked through by accident, will hastily, guiltily email Google to explain that it was by accident. I thought about doing that when I sort of dozed off last night while updating a site page, and got curious about a particular ad that seemed related to what I was writing. (Well, of course, you say.) Today when I checked that site, there was only one click. I checked back in the listings for other one-click days. The others had all produced some income. Yesterday, there was no income from the click.

    So Google protects its advertisers in that way.

    They do also have the search ability, automatically, to detect her requests to readers to click on her ads, and will investigate clusters. I worry when I have 100% or 50% of page impressions yielding clicks. It's an outlier statistics problem partly, which Google would know about. It is also partly the web site, that creates interest but lacks some content, so people lose interest and click away. :)-|)

    I hope my example helps you explain that Google can do things automatically. It may not get through; young people who see $$ in the sky are hard to convince.

    In very basic terms, I GOT CAUGHT BY GOOGLE AND DID NOT GET PAID FOR ONE SILLY LITTLE CLICK WHILE HALF ASLEEP. It only took them a couple of minutes to find out!
     
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  18. Alundria

    Alundria Peon

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    I completely forgot about the clusters actually. Good to know though that they didn't pay you for your click, that I didn't know.

    Also had no idea you would be caught that quickly.

    Thank you SmartSue
     
    Alundria, Oct 22, 2006 IP
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    leandar Well-Known Member

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    cool me too thought its her name :p
     
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  20. real

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    Tell her that this is like selling lottery tickets which have no chance of winning;
    so it is a scam & theft to do this.

    If she still refuses to understand report her.
     
    real, Oct 22, 2006 IP