The Advantages and Disadvantages of Article Spinning.

Discussion in 'Copywriting' started by ContentVisionz, Apr 13, 2011.

  1. ContentVisionz

    ContentVisionz Peon

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    #21
    Yeah thats right
     
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    #22
    Yea, i have realized that too.
    some people start behaving like GOD after reaching xxxx posts on the forum & they always been struggling to find newbie questions to flame them
    Instead of offering a helping hand or a wise advice they feel better to throw flames which is just another crap post in their xxxx posts on the forum!
     
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  3. ContentVisionz

    ContentVisionz Peon

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    #23
    Sometimes it depends on their attitude and mentality as well
     
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    #24
    Yea, infact most of the times it reflects their attitude in posts
     
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  5. ContentVisionz

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    #25

    However it depends on individuals...;)
     
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    #26
    the only 'newbies' who really get flamed on this forum are generally flamed for a reason. posting in the wrong forum, for example. no matter how nice it is to help beginners, there are other users of the forum too, and they have rights too. such as the right not to have their time wasted by people who lack even the commonsense/manners to find the right place to post.
     
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    c4cyber Well-Known Member

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    #27
    lots of people are doing great business with spun articles. Its about the way you treat your spun articles. These articles are usually used for article marketing. You won't spun a single article into 20 and post those 20 on ur site. Right?
    so for me it works.
     
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  8. ContentVisionz

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    #28

    No matter what if you want to do a long term effective business you need to have high quality contents which eventually changes to good piece of sale...;)
     
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    #29
    content is king ;check your content
     
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    #30
    What you mean by that...:)
     
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    #31
    yeah, agree.. whaddhemeanbythat
     
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    #32
    How does the recent panda update affect this?
     
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    #33
    Panda added an early stage check to detect very poorly written content. The assumption was that if it's full of grammar errors either it's simply *really* badly written, or it's been spun using a cheap collaborative spinner. Either way, no one will want to see it, so it can be dumped from the index without bothering to proceed with the more computationally expensive checks the algorithm already uses. We warned that this would happen over a year ago, BTW.

    All spinners except one (see my sig) introduce a fatal percentage of grammar screw ups when used in 'auto' mode, and have therefore become the equivalent of putting a big 600x400 banner on every page of your site, saying 'ban me Google, please'.
     
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  14. peacehammer

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    #34
    Ok, here is a question: if you have an article which is 250 words, and you spin it to about 30-40%, how many articles should you try to get out of it?

    I only spin aritcles for article marketing, everything else is hand written, and I have normally gone for about 10-15 articles.

    Is that too little or too much?
     
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  15. ContentVisionz

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    #35
    Maybe before the Google changed the algorithm spun articles might be very effective with article marketing. But for now it's better to rely on articles that are written manually if you really want to make a good piece of business.. I will definitely tell a "NO" to Article Spinning.;...:)
     
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  16. Thales

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    #36
    First off, the deployment of Googlebots and the underlying formula in its dispersion, retrieval, analysis and subsequent algorithmic results are entirely automated. There are no human factors in the equation. As such, it is important to distinguish the underlying principal between a human and artificial review process.

    Once you have received your first AdSense earning, where a human review by Google is required, no other Google employee will ever again visit your site, unless your site generate a complaint/DMCA/illegal activity feedback.

    Thus, we just have to play within the community consensus of the algorithm, which are,

    (i) X (undetermined) percentile of grammatical, syntax and contextual errors
    (ii) The content originality, where the source is judged to be the earliest one crawled
    (iii) Length of articles, where anything less than 300 words are believed to be the minimum to avoid bots from skipping a page.
    (iv) Frequency of content addition/updates

    Of course, a secondary factor (some would even deem it to be the primary) is the readership reaction to said articles. This is where good, original content comes in. While SEO snake-oil wizardry can get you a certain amount of traffic, a solid content ensures longevity and a continuous and growing traffic.

    So, to answer your question, you can rewrite your articles to your heart's content, just as long as you observe the consensus rules. But then again, this is all pure speculation as Google never tells us anything. In fact, even Google's own Head of Webspan recently made some very cryptic comments about syndicated/reprinted articles. Several noted personalities now believe that Google does not actually penalize non-original contents, provided it is used properly.
     
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    #37
    That is interesting, but for my purposes, I use manually written text on all of my websites. The only use that I have for spun pages is for getting links.


    Regarding point ii, I think that there are various ways in which the original is found, and sometimes, even if there is one copy which is deemed to be the original, but another version of it is more popular, then the more popular version will be used. I think that this is something that stackoverflow.com has had to contend with, as they have been losing traffic from people using their articles.


    Agreed to a certain extent, but the phrase 'used properly' is interesting. I mainly use this kind of article to bring in links, so I doubt that the will have the same power if they are looked at as being duplicate content?

    Taken to it's logical extreme, I could have one article and submit it to every article directory or blog in the world. Since that is the kind of thing which the big G is looking to avoid, there must be a point at which an article isn't worth it any more?

    Or am I just over thinking this?:confused:
     
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  18. MikeBuyco

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    #38
    I've been thinking of using spunned articles for sometime now. I know ezine articles won't like the spunned version but it can be useful for other article directories.
     
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    #39

    If you're looking to increase the traffic to your site maybe spun articles will help you and it is 50/50 possibilities but you really want to give good informational articles for the readers and you wish to have loyal readership than spun article is out of the league...;)
     
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    #40
    agree ol matey ol friend agree
     
    contentboss, May 1, 2011 IP