South Dakota and its Abortion Ban

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by guy123, Oct 21, 2006.

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South Dakota Abortion ban

  1. Good for the nation - overturn abortion - it's terrible

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  2. Bad for the nation - the US should stay prochoice

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  1. #1
    So South Dakota is taking its ban on abortion to the polls this November. If they pass the law, 10-12 states are expected to pass similar abortion bans. This is huge to say the least.

    It's not over after the vote, however. Planned Parenthood will sue the state, and in all likelihood, the case will wind its way up to the Supreme Court to overturn Roe vs. Wade.

    Good? Bad?
     
    guy123, Oct 21, 2006 IP
  2. lorien1973

    lorien1973 Notable Member

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    Depends on if you believe in states rights or not.
     
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  3. noppid

    noppid gunnin' for the quota

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    #3
    Let's see how many of these folks that are against abortion adopt?

    It's more likely this is a way to make sure goverment programs stay in exitance and women are forced onto them as a result. Kinda like trying to force the amish onto food stamps.

    Republicans who want this are the new liberals.
     
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    chulium Well-Known Member

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  5. guy123

    guy123 Guest

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    I dont think taking the life of an innocent person is ever justified, and it's an undeniable fact that zygotes in the womb are actually real people.

    South Dakota's law also has an exeption within 10 days of conception (like for rape and incest) allowing women to take emergency contraception.
     
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  6. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    This topic is always sticky. Have a kid, it changes everything when it comes to opinions about a lot of things.

    Are there circumstances where It should be allowed? Of course. Should it be used as birth control, which is what a lot of liberals seem to do with it? No. If that is what you use it for, get fixed.
     
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  7. ferret77

    ferret77 Heretic

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    or its an undeniable opinion, your opinion
     
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  8. yo-yo

    yo-yo Well-Known Member

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    Just one more right trying to be stolen from society by the religous right nutjobs.

    This is a perfect example as to why they are so dangerous to a free society. They want to outlaw anything they say the Bible is against.
     
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  9. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    Kids....:rolleyes:

    Just think if your parents excerised that "right" as you call it. DP, would be pretty boring. :eek:
     
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  10. Rick_Michael

    Rick_Michael Peon

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    Really,...you think it would go to the supreme court? I guess it might.

    South Dakota barely has any abortion clinics as it is.

    I think the initial chose by the Supreme Court was a matter of agenda, not the Constitution. I think it should be a state chose, which for the most part it would be like it is now. In n. Jersey and New York, one could come a day before birth and abort...while Georgia and South Dakota would have huge limitations.

    Not ideal, but that's what federalism is. I could see a constitutional change many years from now....if latin immigration stays the way it does.
     
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  11. lorien1973

    lorien1973 Notable Member

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    I agree with Rick. It's a states rights issue. I don't think the Roe V Wade was right, on that basis. If a state wants to make it legal, let the people vote on it. If they don't, let the people vote on it.
     
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  12. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    I could not agree more. States have the right to make Gay Marriage legal, and some have.
     
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    ferret77 Heretic

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    conservative are for states right unless its something they don't agree with then they talk about changing the contitution
     
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  14. Rick_Michael

    Rick_Michael Peon

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    Well, that's the process, isn't it? If you can change the constitution by 3/4's, then you can override state's authority on the issue e.g the 17 amendment. It's not the best of things, but it gives a relative amount of authority to the people...when they demand change.

    As a country you have to give relative authority to a supermajority, even if it doesn't make sense in the long-run. Prohibition is a good example.
     
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  15. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    Well put. If that is a "Conservative" ideal, well then, I cannot fault that. You have to have checks and balances somewhere.
     
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  16. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    Or, the right for your kids not to be murdered for a lack of responsibility by non-religious leftwing nutjobs who get their kicks from murdering helpless babies as opposed to taking responsibility for their actions.

    Depends on your perspective.
     
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  17. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    I think ignorance is a right too...:rolleyes:
     
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    yo-yo Well-Known Member

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    What are you talking about? are you off your meds again? nobody is forced to have an abortion. It's a CHOICE. One conservatives want to take away from others. :rolleyes:
     
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  19. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #19
    I don't want to see abortion banned. What I want is for people to NOT use it as a form of birth control. That's pretty much what it is used for. There are several circumstances where it is necessary, and choice has nothing to do with it. Common sense, rape, threat to the mother's life...

    Liberals use Abortion has Birth Control,PERIOD. That's what "conservatives" take issue with. You can CHOSE NOT TO have sex. Or chose a method of birth control prior to and during sex. Those choices have always been there, and they always will. With those choice, you don't even need abortion.
     
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  20. LinkSales

    LinkSales Active Member

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    No, let people vote by using or not using said right.

    A public opinion poll is not a substitute for thought.
     
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