I didn't read the question that way.. sorry. Is it better for the parents who don't love each other to stay together in a fake marriage if they don't argue all time... well I don't know. I doubt it's healthy. Again, I think that stems (mainly) from the taboos of sexual freedoms, and marrying to young.
The term 'healthy' is kind-of odd in this situation....I'm not sure one can indentify that, as one couldn't really say what normal is in some cases. There's always two different extremes in this world, and I believe there's people that put in too much effort and too little effort in marriage. I think it's wise to be somewhere in the middle, because 'love' isn't going to be idealistic through any marriage. Hell, I don't know any relationship I've been in or seen that's been consistant. Women generally believe in monogamous relationships. Personally I think it's in man's nature to be sexual among many women, but I don't think it's practical in todays world to be that kind of guy (atleast all the time). You got to pick whom you want to be, according to what you want. Idealism aside, it's really a comprimise one has to make with this world....or one has to lie their ass off. I prefer the honest side of things, as much as I can afford.
There is a good reason family is under attack. The nuclear family has been the basis for social structure and stability since time began. Break the nuclear families back and that culture crumbles and can be replaced with another. Who would want to replace American culture? It goes way back to before the cold war and actually more so the last 100 years in the big war between the two major political philosophies of the past century: Communism/Socialism VS. Freemarkets/Liberty/Capitalism. Liberals are watered down Socialists/Communists or at least are sympathetic to much of the communist party. The term "Useful Idiots" comes to mind. Useful Idiots is attributed to communist revolutionary Vlademir Lenin is commonly used to refer to Liberals who unkowingly spread communist philosophy/propaganda. How would one go about replacing the strongest most successful and powerful culture on the planet? A huge job indeed. If it cannot be done by force and it couldn't throughout the 20th century it has to be done by slowly eroding the the core of that culture from the inside. Once it collapses it can be replaced. Break the families back, weaken the culture enough so it can be replaced or overtaken as is the case with Europe and Islam now. Family is key to any culture. Spend a few decades telling women how horrible and oppresive men are. Thats enough right there. If either women or men or enough of both reject marriage it will collapse. It takes 2 to tango. Make sure the government can replace the father with social programs, then print millions of magazines, make millions of movies and TV shows demonstrating how evil males are, make sure abortion is available on demand, and demonize children as well. Voila! Instant meltdown! No family! Viva La Revolution! Oh...78% percent of prison inmates grew up in fatherless households, yet only 15% of the general population did. Children are vastly more likely to be abused in single parent homes. Not by "the father" in an intact family. And on and on. But in order to kill the family you must divide men and women which has been successfuly done. Ever wonder why feminists insist on creating the "illusion of oppression" where none exists?
It's not a one way street either. Men are also propangandised against women nowadays. Common images of women are that they are whores, bitches etc. And many accept this role proudly. Men want to be pimps (abusers of already abused women) and women love these men. Kids had about 20 years of this on music videos already and it works like a charm. watchaa gonna do? They are family oriented as long as both parents have a penis or vagina. You don wanna mix the two.....they can be very dangerous!
Cool, you'll be graduating in two years? I'm straight, I'm conservative and I don't care if homos get married or not. See where those "blanket statements" lead to?
Yeah, they make sense. I've heard conspiracies based on this....end the family, and media/gov will lead ya... I can't say I don't think there's some reality to it. The Selfish Culture...that pretends they're selfless. Be careful, most people think this is a neligible concept...I don't understand why, because I think it [the American Culture] is our foundation. Communism asks for the end of 'self-interest', including family units, in favor of selfless love of everyone. Problem is that how can love be obligated by the state or to everyone.....? You can't dictate social morality, you can only appreciate, protect, and promoate it. The progressive side of their party, yes. There are some relatively sane democratic leaders....but they're slowly dying away. Sounds appropriate. I believe the media, especially Hollywood has had their own agenda on the plate since the beginning of television. They're the oddist leftists in America, by far. I can see the European part of the view, but Islam!? I think Islam's weakness is in it's overly serious interpetations of a word that is 'without error'...not necessarily family. I see it on both sides...you do as well (from your posts). This ^^^is what I find to be disturbingly true....it's really sad. Not to be a dick, but the majority of those people are black...it's a serious problem in the black community. People say rap isn't without negative effects, but I disagree. I think the middle class and poor black communities need as much family oriented views as possible within their communities. I don't mean to sound elitist, because I come from a divorced family...hell part of my family is black. Your perspective is similiar to mine....interesting stuff. I say let a woman think for herself. There's too many damn voices out there tell her what to do. What I'm saying, is women would be better off if they let the magazines stay on the rack.
Perhaps the times are changing, or liberals are exuding their typical hypocrisy. Which way is the wind blowing today?
I really don't think this is true, in many cultures men with means could have more then one wife not that long ago I also think children do better when they are raised by one successful parent then 2 losers The "family" concept is BS in my opinion, every family is different, having a husband, wife and kids together in the same house guarantees nothing. I think the perceived attack on "family" is just another part of the persecuted Christian/conservative complex, which a lot of paranoid nuts seem to subscribe to.
I think marriage isn't important. You can still have a perfectly happy and stable family unit without marriage.
Need to hear from the left? I think the liberal/conservative family values thing is hocus pocus bs. My father's family had old world values brought to the US. Nobody ever saw family members as close. My dad, uncle, and aunt were so close and raised myself, siblings, and cousins like we were one big group of brothers and sisters. Something amazing...my dad had an uncle who moved to one part of the country and an aunt that moved to another part of the country and their kids were raised exactly like my dad, his brother and sister. Their respective kids (I guess my 3rd cousins were raised exactly like me and my cousins). Remarkable. Very long lasting family values. I wouldn't or couldn't call that generation liberal or conservative. Think they were all over the place, politically....but actually family came first. Best nuclear family I ever saw....with incredible support and love.....my best friend's parents had 4 sons. Two of the sons died way too early. Those parents have been the strongest, most supportive, lovingest, deeply spiritual/religeous people I've ever seen. Other people are entranced by them and immediately drawn to them. BTW--the parents--way liberal. But I don't think it matters. Lots of great examples on both sides of the line and lots of rotten apples.
How about we call it "valuing family"? The problem with this is that it goes against the "me first" attitudes that are the majority (it seems) today. Selfishness works against the family. Putting your family first, taking care of them before yourself, can do a lot to bringing a family together as a unit. Love works great in a family, even imperfect families like mine. I feel sorry for those who didn't get a chance to know what a family can be like. I love my family and my wife. One thing that was quoted from a dying rich man was "I wish I spent more time with my family" (not an exact quote, but I am sure you have heard it before)
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ It's a difference in mentality, which is not restricted to political views. I think many (but not all) liberals have been taught that they are their own unit. I tend to think industrialization does this as well.