Nevada to vote on legalizing marijuana

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  1. LinkSales

    LinkSales Active Member

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    #61
    Its $20 a gram here for the best of stuff, named strains. But usually $400-500 for an ounce of the same bud.

    Meth is added to a lot of the weed around here.
     
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  2. dcristo

    dcristo Illustrious Member

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    #62
    ok well sorry dude, things work alot different by the sounds of it.

    you either get nachie (natural bud) or hydro (the good stuff) here.

    If it's laced it's been sprayed.

    No wonder you guys are having a meth epidimic :(
     
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  3. lorien1973

    lorien1973 Notable Member

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    #63
    Appropriate family guy quote!

    Lois: So how was your day?
    Brian: My day? Un-freakin' believable. First we nailed this bastard who had the gall to hide his stuff in his daughter's doll--HER DOLL for God's sake! Where's the line anymore? Well, I got news for ya, it's not even on the radar screen! The days of decency and virtue are gone, honey, BAM, freakin' evaporated like a dingy stinkin' mudpuddle. One day you see your reflection in it and the next day it's a, it's a damn oil spot on your cracked driveway, staring back at you, mocking you, knowing the perverted truths that rot in the pit of your soul. That's how my freakin' day was!
    [pause]
    Peter Griffin: You know what I haven't had in a while? Big League Chew.
     
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  4. math20

    math20 Peon

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    #64
    Yes, if people choose to use a substance that is harmful they should be allowed to do so.

    How can you justify imposing your beliefs about the harmfulness of drugs upon other individuals through force?

    Any such force or regulation is very elitist.
     
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  5. LinkSales

    LinkSales Active Member

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    #65
    Agreed. I believe anything done in your own home which does not affect the constitutional rights of others should be allowed, or atleast, tolerated.
     
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    #66
    http://www.cbc.ca/canada/toronto/story/2006/10/19/york-marijuana.html

    Dude. I, like, totally need to medicate right now. Then I totally need a cheeseburger. And a taco. Then maybe some Krispy Kreme donuts.
     
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    #67
    Go right ahead, although I might not think it is a good idea I won't use THE GOVERNMENT to get in your way.
     
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  8. edD

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    #68
    First of all, the study linking cannabis use and psychosis is not conclusive in regards to causality.
    There are many other factors that could be responsible for the association.

    Also, I'm not sure why they controlled for psychosis at age 11 but none of the subjects reportedly started
    smoking cannabis until the age of 15. Doesn't that leave a window for distorted results?


    Here's some other illness linkages:

    "Rise in mental illness linked to unhealthy diets, say studies" :

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/food/Story/0,,1687319,00.html


    Aspirin use in children increases risk of potentially fatal
    disease:

    http://www.reyessyndrome.org/aspirin.htm


    Toddlers who watch TV develop ADD:
    http://www.whitedot.org/issue/iss_story.asp?slug=ADHD Toddlers


    I don't know about you, but I also have common household chemicals that are easily bought without any sort of permit that could be deadly if used wrongly.




    Some alcohol facts:


    This report says there were 75,766 alcohol-attributable deaths in the United States in 2001:


    "Alcohol-Attributable Deaths and Years of Potential Life Lost --- United States, 2001"



    Some more alcohol stats

    source: http://www.vpcla.org/factAlcohol.htm:





    In addition, alcohol has been _proven_(not conjectured...simply put, I don't regard the NIDA as a reliable, objective source of info on this subject. Although I don't believe their campaign is as
    heinous as that of Harry J. Anslinger) to not only be psychologically addictive(I believe almost anything can become a psychological addiction), but _physically_ addictive. Scientists are split on whether or not marijuana is psychologically addictive.
    I'm not even sure there is a dispute on whether it is physically addictive; it is believed not to be.

    In sharp contrast, physical addiction to alcohol is indisputable. In fact withdrawal from alcohol can actually kill you. I don't think that is even true of heroin.


    Tobacco fact


    Cannabis facts



    Study shows marijuana not addictive, not gateway

    http://www.mapinc.org/lib/limited.pdf





    Oddities

    Don't you find it the least bit odd that all hemp cultivation is outlawed, even the species or strains
    that can't get you high?


    Don't you find it odd, that in the 1930's, the people who had the most to gain financially from
    the criminalization of hemp cultivation were at the forefront of passing the law to make it illegal
    and were also at the forefront of the campaign to demonize it in the eyes of the public(the public, which at the time knew almost nothing about marijuana, it simply was not a problem)?



    http://www.druglibrary.org/schaffer/hemp/history/conspiracy_toc.htm
    But if I were you I wouldn't believe that.


    Believe what the government tells you:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bHjHFkDZ1nk
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=saJZJOYzrwU
     
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  9. edD

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    #69
    Should this also be applied to anyone who has ever gambled?
     
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  10. BRUm

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    #70
    My opinion: People should be allowed to smoke whatever they wish. If it adversely affects them, and they knew the dangers, then it's their fault. So I think as long as people are made aware of the dangers, and the Government controls distribution and quality of drugs, people should be able to use them.
     
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  11. ferret77

    ferret77 Heretic

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    #71
    legalize every drug, tax and regulate every drug
     
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  12. dcristo

    dcristo Illustrious Member

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    #72
    even dirty drugs like meth and heroin?
     
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    ferret77 Heretic

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    #73
    all of them, it would totally destroy all the criminal enterprises based on them

    and it would drasitcally reduce crime, if every junkie could just go to a store and get a fix for $3 or whatever, they wouldn't need to rob people. A lot addicts will spend up to 100s of dollars a day on thier drug habits, which is immpossible to support legally

    They already do to this to some degree with methadone clinics,
     
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  14. dcristo

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    #74
    I agree, but not to that extent you have to draw the line somewhere. Only for recreational drugs like marijuana and mdma. Some drugs are just evil.
     
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    ferret77 Heretic

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    #75
    all the more reason to have control over them, presently all those "evil" drugs are readily availible, on most ghetto corners, totally un regulated, no age verification for their sale, and no idea what crap is mixed with them.
     
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    #76
    interesting concept. make it legal so it can be taxed and regulated to "control" it. Lets regulate everything then!
     
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  17. dcristo

    dcristo Illustrious Member

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    #77
    The fact of the matter is, people will always do drugs. If you legalize them, you control the dangers associated with them.
     
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    ferret77 Heretic

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    #78
    i think pretty much everything you eat or drink, ingest have some regulations on it, doesn't it?
     
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    #79
    I don't know if I like the idea of making all drugs legal, but if there are serious studies that show it would reduce use across the board then I'd be for it.

    As for making marijuana legal, there is no question in my mind that use amongst kids would go down drasticallly. The fact that marijuana is so profitable on the black market means that it has peddlers everywhere. When I was a kid I always bought it in school. It was much easier for me to get than alcohol. There was a study done somewhat recently that backs this up. But I didn't need a study to tell me that, I knew from first hand experience.
     
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    #80
    yeah if I want to get tylenol with codine for my back, I have to get a doctor to perscribe it

    if I want to buy some 151 rum , I have to go to the liquer store and show proof of age

    if I want to buy crack, I can just drive to the other side of town and probably get it off any number of corners, no id, no prescription
     
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