Affiliate winners and looser

Discussion in 'Affiliate Programs' started by ultimatehandyman, Oct 20, 2006.

  1. #1
    I once tried affiliate schemes on my main website and had adverts on almost every single page, I made $0

    Now I use Adsense and it is doing much better than the affilliate schemes ever did. In my opinion Affiliate schemes are great for the advertiser but not for the publisher and many of the schemes are simply a good way for the advertisers to get free advertising.

    Here is my reasoning behind this-

    Lets say I have X insurance advertising on my site and they get plenty of page impressions and hits from my site, but no one actually purchases the insurance. I have lost out!

    Why did they not purchase the insurance? because X insurance is roughly 20% more expensive than most other online insurers, so in effect X insurance are getting free advertising on my site.

    Second scenario is B&Q, for those who have never heard of them, they are the UK's largets DIY chain.

    If I run B&Q ads on my site then I am on a looser for sure. I place the ads all over my site and people click on them and browse the items available and then jump in the car and drive to B&Q and purchase the items, so I have lost out again!

    So I would say that Affiliate schemes only benefit the Advertisers and the actual people that run the schemes, Publishers can do much better with Adsense etc. IMHO

    Has anyone actually made any decent money from Affiliate schemes?
     
    ultimatehandyman, Oct 20, 2006 IP
  2. tstaut

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    Your mistake is generalizing the profitability of affiliate programs on your site to the industry in general. Lots of people are making lots of money with it, but a site that does well with adsense will not necessarily do well with affiliate marketing.

    And yes, I'm making good money with affiliate marketing.
     
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  3. wormy

    wormy Active Member

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    I feel that way having a hostgator banner for ages on a couple of my sites. I did not get the $50 comission since no sale came through. The potential CPM was falling lower and lower and lower and finally I just said the hell with it, no need to give gator any more free advertising and I stopped it.

    Has anyone made money off hostgator? How much is it comparatively speaking? Maybe my traffic being 80% asian may have something to do with it too lol.
     
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  4. ryanman

    ryanman Active Member

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    Adsense is only short termed, you never know when they might ban you, their
    tos are very strict; they keep an active eye on where your traffic is coming from and like the saying, goes never risk everything on one endeavor. However, one thing you have not noticed is why is adsense running? It is because of affiliate programs whereby affiliates advertise on adwords. 70-80% of the ads on adsense are affiliate ads. Well the answer to your question is quite simple, Millions of publishers out there are not silly spending thousands of dollars on adwords just to get nothing out of it. They are making heaps buddy and adsense is nothing as compared to what you can make with affiliate programs.
     
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  5. wormy

    wormy Active Member

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    Yeah so adense is just a very crafty middleman then. Maybe affiliates is where its at if you got the time and the ability to fine tune things.
     
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    To be an affiliate marketer you actually need to know how to sell. If you can learn how to sell and advertise other people's products you're going to be alot better off than getting 30c or whatever everytime someone clicks on one of your adsense ads.
     
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    wormy Active Member

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    I wish...my clicks are about a third of that. Hence all the more reason to think about independent marketing, I have a hell of a lot more to gain than most others.
     
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  8. ryanman

    ryanman Active Member

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    No that’s not necessary, You don’t have to sell every time, there are pay per lead, pay per sign up, pay per email & numerous others like that which are very easy to make money with.
     
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    The same is happening to myself

    I have affiliate banners here there and a bit more but no sales from stats. People are looking but ot buying.

    Bashing a brick wall
    Depressing
     
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    No you don’t need the time either it works on auto pilot but with adsense you have to blend your ads work on your traffic keep an eye on clicks, and its stressing as you never know when you might be banned. In addition, think about it this way if people are bidding $10 per click on adwords than they must be making a fortune out of it.
     
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    I'm just saying its not going to happen just with the snap of a finger. You would have to learn how to setup phpadsnew or some such and then maybe hunt for a few affils now and then and perhaps learn how the keyword steering system works. But yeah obviously adsense is what brings google the billions so there is plenty of cash to be had.
     
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    Try telling that to the Plenty of Fish geezer
    Also with FIREFOX i HAVE ADBLOCK THAT MAKES THE PLENTY OF FISH SITE adsense not visible.
    And I read a lot o fpeople us eFirefox.

    Weird how he makes that money
     
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    I have firefox and I didn't know about that block. Maybe 80% of users do not have that block.
     
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    His site gets millions of hits each day including many newbie’s who have no idea as to what a browser is & what its used for, Think from the perspective of a common internet surfer who doesn’t have much knowledge of such stuff and is only looking for some temporary entertainment or is bored. Most of the people coming online do not even know how and where to download all these things from & there is no shortage of such newbie’s as they are hitting this internet scene in thousands on a daily basis.

    Now coming back to plenty of fish no matter what type of traffic he is getting he will still make $10000 or above per day. However, if he was to put affiliate ads on his site his earning would instantly double or maybe triple.
     
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    xboxundone Well-Known Member

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    They key is targeting the right offer to the right audience throwing up a banner just doesn't cut it anymore you have to push the offer... finsd a way to get your audiences attention not just to click the offer but complete the offer... if you get soemthign from the offer... try the offer yourself and tell your experience abotu it to give the offer mroe credibility etc...
     
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    DomainMagnate Illustrious Member

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    yup, is all about targetted traffic, adsense works on any traffic though
     
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    As someone once said...

    If x visitor doesnt come to your site looking to BUY/GET y thing then you wont get any money :)
     
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    Not in the long run, if your traffic is not converting for google they either smart price you or in certain rare cases ban you.
     
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    Yea I can definately see the potential in affiliates and PPC. But how do you really convince people to impulse buy? I mean what makes someone buy through your affiliate instead of clicking on the affiliate link. Being impressed, and then comming back a few minutes later to the products homepage and making the purchase.. hence you get left out of the loop ?
     
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  20. ryanman

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    I always go with the products whose cookie lasts for atleast 3 months or more so even if the person comes directly into the homepage or maybe visits the site directly by typing the http:// address I would still recieve the credit for it.
     
    ryanman, Oct 22, 2006 IP