What country is the closest to the U.S. constitution?

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  1. SEO_AM

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    #41
    I will not debate either side, but you must all realize that no matter what you wish to debate or which side you wish to support, approximately 50%, more or less, will be adamantly against your position.

    In the final analysis, only about 30-35% of our registered voters will go and out vote in mid-term elections and thereby decide the issues for you and I. Those voters, of which 70-80%, are either to the far left or far right of center, will decide under what government or party we will live. Our representatives in the mid-term elections are put in office by far-left and far-right extremists. If you think about it... it is shameful. :(
     
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    #42
    Well I bedamned -- that's one point we can sure as hell agree on. Sorry, it was the best I could do on such short notice. :p Whew, man this is a tough forum -- I'm also working on three client projects at the same time! My wife says I'm wasting my time trying to reason with you fellas.
     
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    #43
    Gtech what the hell?

    You're missing the most crucial point:

    Who determines who is an 'alien'? Answer: the same people that are saying you're an 'enemy combatant'. Well, how the hell is a person to prove they're not an alien without a habeus corpus?

    I put it in a big font so you didn't miss it Gtech....I don't understand blind nationalists.
     
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    #44
    With passage of the Military Commission Act, it effectively eliminates all but 1/10 of the Bill of Rights.

    Amendment I
    Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.


    Gone

    Amendment II
    A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.


    Gone

    Amendment III
    No soldier shall, in time of peace be quartered in any house, without the consent of the owner, nor in time of war, but in a manner to be prescribed by law.


    Still okay -- but our new king can take care of that with a signing statement.

    Amendment IV
    The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.


    Gone

    Amendment V
    No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a grand jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the militia, when in actual service in time of war or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offense to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.


    Gone

    Amendment VI
    In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial, by an impartial jury of the state and district wherein the crime shall have been committed, which district shall have been previously ascertained by law, and to be informed of the nature and cause of the accusation; to be confronted with the witnesses against him; to have compulsory process for obtaining witnesses in his favor, and to have the assistance of counsel for his defense.


    Gone

    Amendment VII
    In suits at common law, where the value in controversy shall exceed twenty dollars, the right of trial by jury shall be preserved, and no fact tried by a jury, shall be otherwise reexamined in any court of the United States, than according to the rules of the common law.


    Gone

    Amendment VIII
    Excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted.


    Gone

    Amendment IX
    The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.


    Gone

    Amendment X
    The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the states, are reserved to the states respectively, or to the people.


    Gone

    What you have left is a country ripe for a complete communist takeover. Welcome to the New World dis-Order where humanity's progress and advancements have been reversed by 800+ years.
     
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    #45
    I know. I fear the democrats will win in november too :(
     
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    #46
    Yeah -- a series of Executive Orders (EO) was used to create FEMA. It does not matter whether an EO is Constitutional or not, it becomes a law simply by being published in the Federal Registry. These orders go around Congress.

    List of Executive Orders & Their Meaning

    10900
    Allows the government to take control over all modes of transportation, highways, and seaports.

    10995
    Allows the government to seize and control the communication media.

    10997
    Allows the government to take over all electrical power, gas, petroleum, fuels, and minerals.

    10998
    Allows the government to take over all food resources and farms.

    11000
    Allows the government to mobilize civilians into work brigades under government supervision.

    11001
    Allows the government to take over all health, education, and welfare functions.

    11002
    Designates the Postmaster General to operate national registration of all persons.

    11003
    Allows the government to take over all airports and aircraft, including commercial aircraft.

    11004
    Allows the Housing and Finance Authority to relocate communities, build new housing with public funds, designate areas to be abandoned, and establish new locations for populations.

    11005
    Allows the government to take over railroads, inland waterways, and public storage facilities.

    11051
    Specifies the responsibility of the Office of Emergency Planning and gives authorization to put all Executive Orders into effect in times of increased international tensions and economic or financial crisis.

    11310
    Grants authority to the Department of Justice to enforce the plans set out in Executive Orders, to institute industrial support, to establish judicial and legislative liaison, to control all aliens, to operate penal and correctional institutions, and to advise and assist the President.

    11049
    Assigns emergency preparedness function to federal departments and agencies, consolidating 21 operative Executive Orders issued over a fifteen year period.

    11921
    Allows the Federal Emergency Preparedness Agency to develop plans to establish control over the mechanisms of production and distribution, of energy sources, wages, salaries, credit and flow of money in the U.S.A. financial institution in any undefined national emergency. It also provides that when a state of emergency is declared by the President, Congress cannot review the action for six months.


    President Regan signed Presidential Director Number 54 in April of 1984 that allowed FEMA to activate a secret national readiness exercise. This exercise was given the code name REX 84. The purpose of the exercise was to test FEMA's ability to assume military authority. REX 84 was so highly guarded that special metal doors were installed on the fifth floor of the FEMA building in Washington, D.C. The only people that were allowed to enter the premises were ones who had a red Christian cross on their shirt.

    The exercise required the following.....

    • Suspension of the Constitution of the United States
    • Turning control of the government over to FEMA
    • Appointment of military commanders to run state and local governments
    • Declaration of Martial Law

    So how much money goes into an organization like this? Well it has been discovered that FEMA has a quasi-billion dollar budget. However, about 6% of that budget goes into the relief effort. So why is it that they need so much money? Ever wonder where the President goes when it's said he is in a "secure location"? Well most of the time that location is a secret government complex built into a mountain.

    It is called Mt. Weather.

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  7. lorien1973

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  8. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    #48
    You might not be aware, but posting in a bigger font does not make your point any more valid. A person proves they are not an alien with identification and minus that, with a quick search to determine if the person is. But then no one is saying I'm an enemy combatant.

    Are you an enemy combatant? Do you worry about being classified as one? Perhaps you have reason to worry?

    If you had read the actual thread, you'd see how ludicrous your point is.

    Nor do I understand "blame America first" liberals who make up their own facts and sympathize with terrorists.
     
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    #49
    We'll see who's the sympathizer when you're there holding your Bush sticker in an internment camp.

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    #50
    Do you seriously think you are making sense?
     
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    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    #51
    If you are ashamed of sympathizing with terrorists, there's an easy way to eradicate the problem. STOP!

    Internment camp? LMAO! You're worse off than I originally thought!

    Psst, there are men in black suits outside of your window right now, spying on you :D
     
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    #52
    And what terrorists might that be? I don't see any Muslims, or Arabs (your favorite targets) or Persians here destroying Americans' liberty and freedoms by trashing the Constitution -- only the Nazi bastards in Washington DC are doing that -- with your support. So actually, that makes you a terrorist.

    In that regard -- I declare myself a "terrorist" and sworn enemy against anti-American "terrorists."
     
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    #53
    Nazi bastards in Washington! I wanna kick em all in the nuts!
     
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    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    #54
    So you are upset that enemy combatants, people who want to destroy the country you live in, aren't getting hilton hotels to stay in and fresh flowers and chocolates every day. Are you saying you want terrorists to have all the opportunities they can, to be all they can be? It sure sounds like it to me. That's sympathy.

    An enemy unto yourself. You probably flinch when you fart, out of fear. But if you are ashamed of sympathizing with terrorists and their causes, then stop. You have that choice. Oh wait, that's right, all your rights are gone. You're not supposed to be using your right to post on the forum, but...
     
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    #55
    Seo tutors friends are marching in DC? Is this now or coming soon?

    nazis are so lame
     
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    #56
    Gtech, don't you have some innocent Muslim women and children you could be humiliating and torturing right now? Or do you intend to diversify and include Americans now also since Bush says it's okay?
     
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    #57
    No wonder you're coming up with so much lunacy, you're actually taking the ACLU's words at face value.
     
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    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    #58
    No, I'm concerned about keep your buds out of our country. Terrorists. The people you seem to have great sympathy for and want to make sure they have every opportunity complete their missions. I'd like to see terrorist supporters rounded up and kicked out too. But lucky for you, rooting for terrorists isn't a crime, yet ;)

    So it's safe to say you have no integrity in life or business? Is this the kind of rationale you use to "attempt" to rank clients?

    Uh oh, not the dreaded belly slap!
     
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    #59
    I've already apologized for that -- I said it was the best I could find on such short notice. Don't you read anything before you post?

    Look fellas, I've gotta get back to work now -- it's been fun -- I'll check back in later.
     
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    #60
    This point might put his point of view more in perspective.

    http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showpost.php?p=1611248&postcount=33
     
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