[video=youtube;6-3X5hIFXYU]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-3X5hIFXYU[/video] Muslims generally have more than 2 children. Perhaps they want to be dominant. They are increasing exponentially in contrast to the christians in Europe. In the coming years muslims may be dominant in Europe. The worst thing is that there can't be any rule to stop this. You can't make a rule that muslims specifically can not have many children. If native Europeans have more kids then population will be very very high. I am felling insecure. ROFL . Edit. Ignore the spelling mistake.
I've heard these things before, there was a theory about how population growth was going increase to the point where there's 1 person for every square foot of land on earth, but that never happened. The mathematics behind it are totally wrong as they don't factor in the dynamic variables at play.
This is indeed Europe's 3rd biggest problem , however it does not have a connection with just the Muslims . The problem is cultural erosion due to massive immigration . So far the laws to stop this phenomenon have lacked but now public awareness is on the rise and so are the laws . Germany , France and the UK have begun to change . Italy is joining in and there is a very active debate in Norway , Portugal and Ireland . The only country that seems to lack a response is Spain and that is simply because they are still recovering as a nation after the Franco era and because they still can't admit that multiculturalism is a failed concept - from my information there is a growing awareness in Spain as well but they are sustaining damage . The Swiss have already imposed draconian laws to prevent their culture from being affected by immigration and they have not shied away from being brutal in their defense . If all this fails there is of course Europe's failsafe system that's basically built into each and every European's DNA . Europe's favorite past time is war . It's not exaggerated to say that for every meter of European soil that exists there is a soldier that died for it . After WWII the formation of the EU , NATO, CSI and MAD have stopped any major conflicts from occurring . For the 1st time in untold millenniums Europe is at peace . We still look around waiting for a air raid siren to go off and still stop sometimes wondering why haven't we heard anything about an invading army . What fanatics like SP fail to comprehend is that if their mad dream will start coming close to reality there will be the most horrific blood bath the earth has ever seen . The cruel atrocities of WWII could have been avoided if the Treaty of Versailles wouldn't have turned Germany into a nation of whores and thieves . The holocaust was a horrifying chapter in human history unfortunately it also set an example and a precedent . Stalin took those lessons and used them to murder untold millions . The more the islamists grow in size and violence the more the nationalist groups will rise . A continued rise in this tendencies can only lead to one of the bloodiest results in history . Nothing on Earth can stop a civil war in Europe and I for one hope it never happens .
haha...why you are feeling insecure? They are not eating your food or taking your share of oxygen. Muslims love families and kids. I am muslim too. Single but would love to have kids after marriage. I have only one brother. That make us two. We are best friends. My love has only one brother as well. No sister. But he wants more than 2 kids..He missed big family. We don't want world domination. We want family...huge family usually means lots of love and care.
I could not agree with this more. This has nothing to do with Islam and everything to do with immigration. We have the exact same types of immigration issues here in California, where poor people come across the border from whatever 3rd world socialist shit hole they came from, and then refuse to assimilate. Lets face it. While the US used to be a lot more open to immigrants, we also used to be a lot more hostile in terms of forcing people to assimilate. To make matters worse, our government is now playing the role of enabler by providing all the necessary social services at the subsistence level. One can quite literally sneak across the border, move into a neighborhood filled entirely with people from their country of origin, and live a better lifestyle than the country they left living entirely on government handouts. Welfare, foodstamps, medical care, you name it. They don't even have to learn the language, as our government agencies at all levels now provide multi-lingual services. What is the motivation for any of these people to integrate? One girl in particular I know Is on her fourth child at age 23. She has quite literally been pregnant for the last 3 years running. How can she afford to do it? Having a baby in a US hospital costs around USD$10,000. Education, clothing, college, food, daycare. These are all things people who actually work for a living have to take into consideration, but not her, and millions just like her. Cheaper than any fence, or troops at our borders, would be the elimination of our assistance programs. Without them, those who don't want to assimilate would quickly return to whatever socialist sh*thole they came from. The rest would be welcomed as freshly minted US citizens.
Meanwhile the US National Guard is busy doing nothing and Obama's people are busy attacking state laws in federal courts . The fact is no matter what you do you can't merge two cultures 100% . Hell not even in marriage can two people melt their values 100% although they have the strongest motivation and they make 100% compromises . I don't know what will happen to the US i see a similar political movement like the one in Europe but i think it's to little to late to undo all the damage done . The only outcome is that you'll see more and more gated communities . New York and Los Angeles are the main melting pots of the US . Unfortunately California is in a real danger of becoming a failed state despite the fact that it is a economic powerhouse with some of the best laws in the US . I see Arizona's laws a simple immune system reaction . I'm by no means an expert in US politics and I've not taken a deep look at the US demographics , the future thou doesn't look so bright .
Of course. Many of those people have legal relatives who vote, and they vote Democrat. There is a large push to make Puerto Rico the 51st state against the will of the Puerto Ricans, just so the Demcorats can wield a bit more power. Its hard to say. A lot of states still very much have their act together while California is taking specific steps to make the problems worse. It needs to be cut off the teet of federal dollars or it will never get it's act together, and could drag the rest of the country down with it. The worst part about it is, we put these people into power just a few months ago. Right now, Latinos make up more than half of all k-12 students in California, nearly 3 times their representation a decade ago. Children of European descent make up less than a third, making the offspring of any particular European country an extreme minority. I worry more about culture and integration more than race or ethnicity, but the pace at which people are flooding into the country is not allowing for any integration. To make matters worse, politicians on all sides race bait to get voters to vote their race rather than their interests. This is why we have Gov. Moonbeam yet again. On the bright side, it would seem the Tea Party may be the single most powerful group in Washington right now, and I don't see that changing much in the next few years. Like it or not, a lot of state budgets as well as the federal budget are in for a big hair cut. We'll see if they get anything done before they become as corrupt as the people they just replaced.
Joking aside the reason for imigration is employment - the US does manage the cultural interchange with varying degrees of success while Europe remains a quagmire of separatist states that by definition is the anti-thesis of assimilation. Islam will not become dominate in either Continent irregardless their population.
The immigration can be stopped but what about those who are already living there. They have more than 8.1 chldren. Yes, but here the increase of muslims population is not estimated only. It has been increasing with this rate since many years. The video is only about Europe. The fertility rate is the same everywhere. If france has 6% muslims, the India has 13%.
I've seen the video ages ago and the figures are a gross overstatement or the reality . The uneducated just pour out kids from the ancient tradition that if a lot of them die then at least some survive so the race won't be extinct . Nothing more or less . Those that assimilate the local culture and integrate stop having 1001 kids .
The Muslim population will grow anyway because the population is growing, there's thousands of growing religions and cults but everyone seems to be fixed and paranoid about just one.
Do not worry my friends,not only Europe,muslims want to dominate the whole world by increasing their number.Like you,We Hindus are also feeling insecure in India.You have talked about 2 children,but I have seen many muslim Bangladeshi couples with more than 8 children.Please help .......
The figures are not exxagerrated. Here is a video from BBC. They say that some facts are wrong and some facts are more or less the same.[video=youtube;mINChFxRXQs]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mINChFxRXQs[/video] And the BBc video says that they have a 8.1 fertility rate is correct and this fact is most important.
Yes, but still the muslims fertility rate is precise. Anyway prediction is still incorrect. Israel's dream did not come true.
I'm talking about the 8.1 being a 2.1 that is the Muslim fertility rate . The danger of cultural erosion still exists but we are taking action to prevent that .
I never claimed your figures were correct, I knew they were incorrect as I've seen this video before. But there is no doubt that Muslims are growing not just in Europe, but all over the world, and there is no sign that this growth is going to stop anytime soon, it's not something anyone can deny. Growth is both by birthrates, immigration and conversions. I'm seeing many Christians leaving their faith to become Muslims, this is just the beginning, Islam is still new and misunderstood in the West, and more are beginning to get an understanding and becoming Muslims, this is widely reported, and I see this on the ground. Several Anti-Islamic groups have been formed in recent times to stop this from happening, they launch brutal propaganda online and offline, they appear on the media and are very organized, but none of this is effective. We should remember that Muslims have conquered many places before, so let's not underestimate. I say join us, while you still have time.
will the Spread of Islam bring all the prosperity, freedom and peace that characterize the muslim countries? if so I wouldn't mind, as long as they don't mind my atheism, my friend's homosexuality and my female friends on their pants and miniskirts
More breeding of Islamophobia. I thought your graph was interesting, since it represented an explosion of "muslim" population in Northern Africa. I thought it might be useful to have a look at the explosion of non-muslim population in Africa as a whole, and what do you know: It would seem that though the Africans breed like rabbits(like most poor nations do), the Islamic portions of Africa are actually doing so less than the rest of the continent. Am I the only Muslim here who finds your "we breed like rats better than anyone else" representation of Islam offensive? By the way, love the call to violence with the "while you still have time" statement.