A Letter to Mankind

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by suitsme, Oct 15, 2006.

  1. TWalker

    TWalker Peon

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    #21
    Who knows? It could be 50% that support it or 5%. I'm just showing it's a lot, whatever the number is.

    If 60 million, 120 million or a half billion people think it's ok to blow my children up.....thats bunch anyway look at it.


    :D
     
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  2. Arnie

    Arnie Well-Known Member

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    #22
    That's a hillarious clip. :D
     
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  3. TWalker

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    #23

    hehhe.....The guy in the background is funny.

    They should just tube feed them to make sure their lips are never exposed....


    :D
     
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  4. suitsme

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    #24
    Oh, my, you could not have posted that at a better time. I can use that for my rebuttal in another forum where a Muslim woman has been trying to tell me it's their CHOICE to dress like that.
    Thanks!
     
    suitsme, Oct 17, 2006 IP
  5. Rebecca

    Rebecca Prominent Member

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    #25
    Hi, I wasn't picking on you specifically:)...These threads tend to be kind of long, just was wanting some clarification as to where we are going with this thread. So I guess the subject of this thread is:

    "Why I think the Islam religion is evil but not the people"

    Or as samantha pia would say,

    "I have a hatered for Islam"

    HaHa...I better go to work now, play nice.
     
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  6. suitsme

    suitsme Peon

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    #26

    I don't hate it, I try not to hate anything.
    As far as playing safe goes, you shouldn't have any problem with me, I like it best when people have to resort to trying to belittle me.
    One more thing, I don't own that site, Im not an ex-Muslim, and the people who have the site are not trying to convert anyone to any other religion.
    rebecca "HaHa...I better go to work now, play nice." Ya, sure, run and hide!
     
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  7. lorien1973

    lorien1973 Notable Member

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    #27
    why do your posts remind me of split pea soup? :confused:
     
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  8. suitsme

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    #28
    Who me lorien?
     
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  9. lorien1973

    lorien1973 Notable Member

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    #29
    yeah. i think its the green color
     
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  10. suitsme

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    #30
    Maybe if you take that bag off your head you could see me better.
     
    suitsme, Oct 17, 2006 IP
  11. lorien1973

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    #31
    I can't. I'm ashamed of my football team!
     
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  12. suitsme

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    #32
    I'm ashamed of mine too, Buffalo, but I don't have a bag over my head.
    At least poke some holes so you can see!
     
    suitsme, Oct 17, 2006 IP
  13. livingearth

    livingearth Well-Known Member

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    #33
    I may need some correction here. Feel free to post.. Do we not worship the same "God" ? Are not many of the same books common to both Islam and Christianity? I know that we refer to God as Jehovia, the Lord and Islam speaks of Alla but it has always been my impression that they are all one and the same. Only that the messenger was different. To me the evil is the human tendancy to believe that we know and that those who disagree are wrong. The evil is human ignorance and ego and fear. It exists in our hearts as humans and is driving the conflicts on all sides.

    Also is there a distinction between Islam and Mohammadism?
     
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  14. Rebecca

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    #34
    Living earth, I think your statements are beautiful.

    "To me the evil is the human tendancy to believe that we know and that those who disagree are wrong. The evil is human ignorance and ego and fear. It exists in our hearts as humans and is driving the conflicts on all sides."

    If you look at the religious/politics section of this forum, I would say a very large portion of it is dedicated to talking about how evil Islam is. There is so much hatred. I read a post the other day saying how we should declare open season on muslims and just go kill them all. It is extremely popular to hate anyone that follows the Islam religion. If you don't hate them on this forum you are in the minority. Don't bother getting to know any of them, don't bother even trying to understand what is going on...Just take the entire group of people, lump them all together and hate them. If they are a muslim, then gosh darn they must be a terrorist because any other conclusion might be to complicated. As a human being, I refuse to get on the bandwagon and automatically despise someone because of there religion.

    "I may need some correction here. Feel free to post.. Do we not worship the same "God" ? Are not many of the same books common to both Islam and Christianity? I know that we refer to God as Jehovia, the Lord and Islam speaks of Alla but it has always been my impression that they are all one and the same. Only that the messenger was different."

    I don't follow any religion. But it seems like "religious" people I have seen are the cause of alot of pain and suffering in this world. All of the constant hatred and fighting. You seem above it all, wish there were more people with your views.
     
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  15. suitsme

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    #35
    It is wrong to hate Muslims. It is Islam and its teaching that is the problem.
    I would never judge or be rude to a Muslim if I were to sit next one on a plane or if one came in my shop.
    I have a few Muslim friends online, we go round and round all the time. At the same time we like and respect each other.
    Do we hate the poor people who were brainwashed into following Jimmy Jones or David Koresh? No, it was the teachers that needed to be stopped.
    Islam is the only religion that has jihad. It's the only one that puts people to death rather than allow them to change their religion.
    Another forum I am in a man in Iran started a thread saying he is Muslim and wants to change his religion to Christian. He was called, "stupid", "ignorant", "immature" called a fraud by Muslims and even told he could be put to death!
    My friend and I have been called s--t, c--t words just for voicing our opinions.
    Some have cried to administration for censorship of anything bad said about Muslims, Islam or Mohamed. They constantly make excuses for and baby the terrorists instead of holding them accountable.
    They know where Osama Bin Laden is, they won't turn him in, they think he is a hero. Could a criminal like that hide in the U.S for very long?
    I'm not trying to say everyone should be Christian or Jewish or anything. I'm saying no religion at all is better than a barbaric religion.
    I just want the truth to be known because it breaks my heart to know there are people in this world right now who cannot practice freedom of religion.

    "I may need some correction here. Feel free to post.. Do we not worship the same "God" ? Are not many of the same books common to both Islam and Christianity? I know that we refer to God as Jehovia, the Lord and Islam speaks of Alla but it has always been my impression that they are all one and the same. Only that the messenger was different."
    Ya, the messengers sure are different, there is a big difference. One teaches tolorance, peace and love, the other only pretends to.

     
    suitsme, Oct 19, 2006 IP
  16. Rebecca

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    #36
    There is a large percentage of people in the world that follow the teachings of Islam, and I do not consider that a problem. I feel it is unnecessary and disrespectful to try to convince someone that there religion sucks. They are adults and capable of making up there own minds what religion they will follow and do not need to be ridiculed for it. I do however concede that if you strictly follow Islamic fundamentalism it is more violent just like the teachings in the old testament about stoning people for crimes etc. etc. Christianity however, has a new testament that says the old laws are dead and forgiveness is in. However, I do not follow either religion. Personally, I don't know all the answers and I don't think any of us do. I am just so tired of all the hate in this world and wish it would stop.
     
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    #37
    It's not the quantity of something that distinguishes right from wrong but the quality, wouldn't you agree?

    It bothers me also to be around here since I have other things to do also, but I just can't stand it in how provocative some can be and try to misslead with lies and rumours.

    It's not against the individual person, even it appears sometimes so. It's against the spirit behind them.

    You know we all have a spiritman living inside of us, and they are somtimes very wicked, but everyone can chose which spiritman they want to carry and have them guide the lifes.
     
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  18. Rebecca

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    #38
    "It's not the quantity of something that distinguishes right from wrong but the quality, wouldn't you agree?"
    That is true, I would have to agree with that statement. But it doesn't follow that Christianity=Right and Islam=Wrong.

    "You know we all have a spiritman living inside of us, and they are somtimes very wicked, but everyone can chose which spiritman they want to carry and have them guide the lifes."
    Are you saying Islam has a wicked spiritman? If so, many people would disagree with that. If you look at things from the other side of the fence for a minute...Imagine you are a muslim following Islam and so many Christians you come in contact are so intolerant of your beliefs. They either try to jam christianity down your throat or ridicule your religion. How would that make you feel about christianity? Maybe I can see it clearer because I don't attach myself to any certain religion. And maybe I am wrong and when I die I will find out Jesus is only god or Mohammed is or the Buddhist were the only ones that were right OR? But we are guessing until then...So, in the meantime why don't we all quit hurting eachother in the name of religion and start treating other human beings with kindness and respect.
     
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  19. DodgyAnt

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    #39
    Almost all religions contradict each other the more you delve in.

    It's the fundamental laws that matter.
     
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    #40
    1st of all, you are mistaking people trying to get the truth out as hatred. If your neighbor was raping little boys and you were telling people to stay away from him, would that be hatred? I think that would be showing love for those you are warning, am I not right?

    2nd, if you understand anything about true Islam and what is in the koran, the bolded above are the people that scare me. The ones that follow islam.

    A little teaching on the old testament - that was for a certain people for a certain time. The law was for all people and Jesus is the one who said He completed or fulfilled the law.

    I am just tired of people turning the warnings into some sort of hate. If I personally hate something to do with Islam, it is the evil, lies, etc... we are seeing. Muslims are people, and it would be wrong to treat them differently than others, but don't blame me if I feel a little uneasy around the nervous, sweating, young, palistianian man on an Israeli bus with a heavy backpack on. You got to use common sense sometimes in spite of being PC.
     
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