@Grimm: To Vebtools and any other "zelous" believers everyone is muslim just that some are denning their religion (like you and me)
Ah. That's why we've come to expect so little of you. You know, there's a string of videos on YouTube as part of some "burn the Bible challenge". I don't see Christians up in revolt.
Well that's a long bow to draw. Kinda like me saying why do Republicans have to twist the words to mean something else to make their point every time, when it's only you that does that! You do know the difference between you saying that and a serial killer saying that, I hope!
waoo talk about reconciliation and we have these hate mongers to piss off people, behind the veil of freedom they incite hatred, enmity and misguided wars. Guess we need to draw a line where do we express our freedom and when do we trespass others sensitive territory. We need to be more humans then rule book moron robots.
Ya communism FTW . It's about dam time I'm very sensitive to people criticizing the values of street racing and one of my friends is very sensitive to people criticizing the artistic values of beer . We demand immediate action or we'll gather and angry mob and protest Freedom of expression is one of the few things in the world that is almost unlimited for it is the continuation of freedom of speech . 99.99999999% of the time speech is a personal right that doesn't violate another persons right . Therefore there is no reasonable need to impose further restriction on freedom of speech and expression . What we need to understand is that by mixing all the cultures and values in one pot you won't get a better society . To make a wild comparison you wouldn't have soup stake , desert and coffee mixed up and served in the same recipient .
I chide, of course. Some of my best friends are liberals. The wife of the second man in my wedding, a girl who I've known since I was 9, works as a California teacher (in the teachers union) and has added a nice new piece of body art to her collection which has integrated the words "Si se puede" which is Spanish for "Yes we can!". That is no joke. Most of the guys I hang with consider me to be the most liberal guy of the group, also not a joke. Chiding aside, accusing the guy of causing deaths for exercising his right of free speech is a form of surrender, since elimination of free speech is most definitely in the play book for the extremists we are up against. You can tip toe all you like around the delicate sensibilities of people, by removing holiday celebrations from schools, the rights of employers to fire bad employees, or the rights of people to express opinions that others might disagree with, and you will still never make everyone happy. So quit trying to surrender to everyone. It doesn't work.
Both parties twist words to make their point every time. The zealot that believes their party doesn't do that is a fool.
Makes you wonder who the dumbasses are, the ones sat on a cold floor burning a book singing Kumbayah trying to warm their asses up. or the ones that go on a killing spree and killing people that had nothing to do with it, killing innocent people in the name of god. retards all of them
I said the guy was told that it would cause unneccessary deaths. Not once did I say that he caused the deaths. You twist my words to make your story work. My original post said exactly what you agree with when some Fox person said it yet because it's me you show your arrogance by twisting my words to make your case sound valid. No points there sorry. You should re-read and understand what I said then. Sheesh, does nobody understand Australian over there?
Fair enough. Re-reading your post, you didn't phrase it in the first person. You said specifically: So now your argument is, other people warned him that his actions and words would cause people to die, but that doesn't necessarily mean you feel his words and actions caused people to die. That would make my quote a twist of your words if we never bothered to look at the rest of what you wrote, which provides the context of your personal opinion. And I quote: and from another post: Perhaps I am twisting your words. Perhaps I am reading into them too much. Now that I look at your words again, I'm hard pressed to see how one would not walk away with the impression that you feel the preacher caused people to die, so why don't you clarify it for me. Do you feel the preachers words were as irresponsible as, lets say, shouting "fire" in a crowded movie theater, or screaming "Bomb" on a crowded airplane?
haven't been here in a long time. RobJones....still tellin it like it is. Good show man!!! Identifying twin sets of morons on either side of the planet and prescribing a way to solve the problem....not to mention including jack daniels in the discussion!!!! Well done
Freedom of speech and expression does not necessarily mean you abuse it. If the priest had merely condemned the malpractices in Islam I'd have been on his side but burning the book (however much I disagree with it) that millions of people follow is a lame thing to do. A clear act of provocation
The bible has been burned and mistreated in every way . So has the cross . Yet you don't see a angry mob in NY destroying everything in site . Hell think of rule 34 . That's more insulting then most things one can think of ,yet you don't see revolts because of it . Freedom is best as it is - nearly unlimited .