Religion may become extinct in nine nations, study says

The problem with atheists is that they hate religious people because of the peace and inner joy they have towards the world. The fact that they proteseth too much brutus shows me that they are insecure about what they believe in. Since Taking appologetics courses it has shown me that religious worldviews arent basedon faith alone but a mountain of philosophical, inductive scientific, and common sense values that atheism just doesnt have.

If I werean atheist i would be angry as well as that worldview is meaningless and the way they bring meaning into their world is by occupying their time trying to spread disinformation about God and believers. If they truely believe they will be wormmeat in 70 years why dont they get out of their houses and enjoy and do whatever makes them happy. Its no coincidence that the majority of peoplewho commit suicide are atheists, and atheists have killed more people in 100 years than all religious wars puttogether

Wulkanen, I have never heard of religious people wanting to kill atheists in pms, as it isnt the way of Christianity( turn the other cheek), but of course you never insulted them did u

But if you just do a little google research on atheist forums you will see the difference in way christians treat atheists then how atheists treat christians. Its no competition. Now I agree completely that any religious person that threatens someone with death over words is not acting in accordance to their religion because most religions have objective moral values. The way they treated you it seems like they dont have any objective moral values, in other words they are acting in a way that atheists have the potential to act which is basically relativistic.

I really hope that you and your family are ok
Violence only begets violence, but please do an unbiased search into atheist forums and see how they try to redicule theists and you will understand what Imean.

I have been going to search since i was a teen and I never once heard of violent talk against atheists.

MI25, your laughing because you cant disprove what I just said, and I can bring you atheist sinnologists that show what I just said is backed by research and proof.
MI25, now after your laugh show me that Jospeh needham the legendary atheist sinnologist is wrong?
Is it me or do almost all atheists in here seem to not posses even the knowledge of laymen?

I could disprove atheism in 5 minutes, and it doesnt make sense why any intelligent person would be an atheist . (nde's with remote viewing show that both atheistm and naturalism-materialism are views that cant be held by rational and reasonable people.
If you want to be a thinking person and not just some angry idiot like Stox and his little minions are on here, here is an article for you start in which you can turn on that little brain cell and actually use it.
http://www.garyhabermas.com/articles/Bibliotheca-Sacra/habermas_BtS_paradigm-shift.htm

You claimed its a fairy tale, this right here shows that you have abandoned the use of critical thinking (and any thinking whatsoever) and have taken yourself down to one line statements.

Pia, your making assertions again based on nothing more then what happened to you, and yes I am truely sorry that you were abused , and it doesnt matter if it was a priest or anyone else. Asa virgin that is 43 years old I have massive respect for the opposite sex, and while you do accuse me of not being angry for it, I can understanmd since your statements are coming from your hurt, but to damn a whole religion based on some people within isnt very rational is it.

Samantha if your comparing religious killings to atheism killings im afraid your way out of your league miss. There is simply no comparison to teh killings that came from atheism. Now why dont you take a trip to russia and talk to all thge old people there about the rapes, killings and pillages of atheism and communism? You think you are hurting? Yes you are hurting, but there is a whole nation that is experiencing even more hurt then you have. If you dont believe me research what stalin and lenin were doing to churches and church people. They were butchering them by the millions and trying to kill any teacher that taught anything contrary to atheism in classes.

I have grown up in a very loving religious atmosphere and my relationships with priests were all very good. All helped meand are still helping me through my tough times.
This is my last post to you . I can only imagine who you would be like if you lived under communism.
Good day

 

That's suppose to be evidence ? lol

After the terrorist attack in Sweden i sported this avatar for almost a month :


I got plenty of cursing , plenty of of -rep and even a death thread but not by far 200 . I was making about 40 posts per day during that time so it had plenty of exposure . So this is why I'm saying Wulkanen is posting bull .

 

Is this a joke. Do you think we are idiots to believe this. For some other less stupid comment i would have asked for proof, not this.. So in a situation some athiest created a thread to dissapprove god and you posted 1 line that you do not believe in god and you got 200 death threats.

I hate it when athiests( in fcat anyone) lie and exaggarate things to prove their point and superiority. Next time when you lie make some sense.

 

I have recieved these emails over a span of 3-4 years online on various forums and social networks. I have never recieved any of them from DigitalPoint (which I am glad for since I am not even that active on this part of the forum). They mainly come from Hubpages (not that active there anymore) and YouTube where I am more active.

And I know there's not any way for me to prove this since a hate mail can easily be faked.
I'm no liar and I did not say that you all are idiots.
If you do not believe in my words then it's up to you, you have a free will.

 

And you got these emails by only saying that you " Do not believe in god".

 

Many times yes.
Of course all my comments or posts did not just say exactly "I do not believe in god" (that would have been a bit repetitive/spammy)
but I never made any personal attacks or threats to religious people.
There are a lot of people that stick around specific areas of the Internet
attacking everyone that goes against them. I'm not saying non-religious people are any better.
I can only assume that these people are/were not old enough to express their feelings
in better ways, and personally I just delete them.

 

when people developing with science mostly this will happen to every country.

 

I agree with you. Religions are the #1 reason of wars.

The crusades and many smaller wars between christian, muslim and jewish people.

There are still some small religion wars in the middle east to spread their own religions or control the some blessed territories, buildings, etc.
If there is something blessed, a war or smaller attacks can be erupted for it anytime. This has been proved many times in the history.

You can say all of the wars in World for just oil. That's correct to some extent. But all we know that oil has not an economic value during the 11th century crusades.

I think that science and religion have no direct relation with each other. You can develop a country with science but you can still have a religion if your people need to believe something.
All of the scientific disciplines in the World are improved mostly in the US and UK but they are not in those 9 countries according to the news.
" ... (Australia, Austria, Canada, the Czech Republic, Finland, Ireland, the Netherlands, New Zealand and Switzerland)..."

You see that some people always need to have some beliefs and something blessed to war and kill for it until someone finds a way better way to satisfy this need. But science seems like not a working method or option for the US and UK. Instead they use science to develop their war toys to kill more people in the wars. It can be more dangerous than religions I think.

If we want peace in the World, we must stay away from anything blessed, including religions and stop using money and science to create new wars.

 

Again any proof of that ? You know like a statistics with some numbers made by a respectable institution . (And no the Happy University of Nowhere is not something respectable)

Jew who fought Christians because of their religion ? The only religions that collided where Christian with Islam and Islam with everyone else .

What religious war are you talking about in the Middle East ?

So the fact that science flowered in monotheistic Europe and the Middle East has nothing to do with it ? Why hasn't science flowered in Asia , in the Americas , in Africa or in Oceania ? Why did those continents remained in the Dark Age/Stone age/Iron age/Prehistory ?

War is the very blood of man kind . Competition between groups will result in conflict , the more groups the more conflicts . If you want to eliminate wars you need to eliminate competition .

 

Update: nvm, I don't have time for this.

 

Just take a look at your cartoon you posted above. No offense. But if you read a bit about the history of religions you can see tons of human blood.

World War II should remind you something about jewish and christians. Also there were wars between rome empire and jewish to control jerusalem. Muslim countries are mostly the poor and third world countries. Most of them don't have a professional army and high-tech weapons. I don't think muslims love to war everyone since they could not even defend themselves from the attacks in iraq, lybia, etc. How can you love to fight if you already know you will be beaten? But you can like to fight for fun if you know you will be the victorious at the end of war.

The jewish war to control somewhere or something blessed. That war was between jewish and christians in the history before islam is existed. Only the actors changed. But that war is still going on.

I am sad to see that you still don't know what you are talking about. The east, middle east, iraq, egypt, far east including china were where the most scientific rules were discovered. We still use those rules and practices. Example?
We still use the similar calendar which was first discovered in egypt. First writing, alphabet was discovered in the current iraq territories. First medical cures and operations were made in china.

Then let's kill the webmasters who have sites on the first page of google? Yes there is competition everywhere but we don't have to use violence as a tool. If you need oil, you don't have to kill the people and destroy countries. You have to find a peaceful way to get oil if you respect human life.

 

Your post is delicious , i can't wait to devour it . Unfortunately it's 2 AM and I won't be able to properly enjoy it . I'll reply tomorrow , in the mean time you may read it yourself and perhaps edit it . It has more holes then swiss cheese .

 

Still now the #1 cause of wars . The tons of blood caused by religious wars in the last millennium are less by the tons of blood caused by falling coconuts .

The Holocaust was ethnic base not religious based .

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish–Roman_wars - revolts now wars

Saudi Arabia , UAE , Quatar , Bahrain - rich and muslim .
The extremist put up quite fight in Iraq and they still fight in Afghanistan . Even with the US forces out of the theater Iraq faces hundreds of terrorist attacks justified by Jihad . This is without taking into consideration the thousands of Muslim terrorist attacks all across the globe - all in the name of Islam , all justified by Jihad .

How can you fight knowing you will loose ? Ask the suicide bombers .

Also the UN mandate is Libya is not an offensive . It's is air support for the population , the UN resolution was proposed by the Arab League - which are .... muslim .

The Jews fight to defend their homeland , not to control the ruins of their temple. Also i can't recall any wars between Christians and Jews - maybe you can find something but i doubt it .

We use a modified version of the Roman calendar . The 1st alphabet was in Israel Earliest historic evidence of organized medicine are in Egypt and Babylon but the cradle of modern medicine is considered Ancient Greece and the discoveries of Hippocrates of Kos . Most inventions that we use today where discovered after the Renaissance began , with a massive theoretical boost during the Victorian age and followed by massive implementation during the Industrial age and Atomic age . If those territories where so advanced in the field of science they wouldn't need to modernize today .

Every bit of traffic that you take receive is harming the your competition . Every package that you sell is money that could have feed another mouth perhaps a starving one . Every girl that you sleep with could have slept with another man , perhaps with man that committed suicide because he couldn't find a girl to love him . So every time you have sex think that you might have just murdered someone , every time you eat think that someone is dieing of starvation and every time you take your medicine think that some died because that person couldn't afford them . Competition is brutal , merciless and cruel but it is embedded in our very DNA .

As for the whole oil BS :
http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=911_morons

 

Any source for that statement about DNA?
As far as I know competition is when plants or animals compete for a limited resource of something, such as sunlight or water.
Yes, I can agree that in some cases competition can be brutal, but dont mix up competition with being aggressive.
Competition can be fun and rewarding for both parties as well.

 

Accidents or other type of natural things are irrelevant to wars.

You can be correct. I don't know much about it.

What is the difference since there is violence?

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I mostly agree with the rest part of your post. Also I learnt something new. Thanks.

Anyway my point was related to religions. Let me share what I think about religions and why they become extinct;

Religions have blessed values, materials, etc. What religions tell the people is that you have to protect everything blessed or we will take you into our hell after you died.
Can you see the treat and reason of violence? If something blessed is not respected (like the cartoon you posted) it can create angry, hate then violence . Because religion tells the people that protect the blessed values.

So, religions make some of politicians and rulers life much easier. Some of them can use those blessed things to create hate, angry, fellowship, sympathy, new wars, more votes whatever they want easily. Even you can cheat people and collect free money for your personal wealth under the name of donation or anything which is related to a religion.

Since more people aware about these facts, religions will continue to lose their popularity in the World.

 

You don't have sex you die and you are forever eliminated from the genepool . Most of the fights I've had in my life started from a girl , mine or a friend's . Hell this type of behavior is written even in the animal DNA . In fact you'll find wars and invasions in the animal kingdom as well . Do i really need to bleeping point out the obvious ?

@makeit easy : Maybe I'll give you a response tomorrow . Do some research of your own and you'll easily see the answers you can start with : General history of the world , military history of the world , general geography , physical geography (has most of the basic course focus on the universe and it's formation) and genetics (you need to step away from the biochemical field on this one and focus on it's impact ) .

 

1. You never showed any facts about the DNA part.
2. I also said animals and plants competed, so no need of bringing that up again.
3. Humans are animals.
4. You are still using the word "competition" and referring to the word "aggression".
5. Why are you so angy? It was a simple question, no need to "bleep" words to get your point across.

If you are referring to hormones and similar things, then that has not direct connection to competition since
competition is created when there are limited resources. Also, I can't help that you have fights over things like girls etc,
it doesn't mean that everyone else has the same problems (for example I don't). And even if I did, fighting would be a choise
I made and it does not have anything to do with my DNA.

 

Wulkanen , with the deepest respect you are differently abled man . There is no point to get across , it is just simple matter of correction . You post something false and I'm bringing out the truth and back it up with evidence . I wish this was a debate but it's just another "Atheist say the craziest things about religion ..." thread .

 

My question didn't mention anything about religion and you have not posted any evidence, so don't even try..
How can a question be false? Your logic does not make sense.
It seems like you are just trying to avoid the truth that you are just saying things to sound smart.

 

Do you truly believe that you won't be wormmeat once you die? That worms will make an exception for you? In The Name of Thee Lord?